Hello, I'm not giving you my real mane, so you can call me The Zodiac, or Zodiac for short. I found your site and after many hours of down loading it(not really), I found some really cool stuff in it. I never knew that Richard Rameriz was married. This guy wrote to me and we wrote for a while, but I got bored and my parents were getting mad(I'm 19). It wasn't that fun, though I would have loved to write to Dahmer. Richard always wanted to know when I would visit, but I wasn't in crime class, so I didn't want to go(I was a bit scared). I could go now, but with my 5'3, 100lb frame, I'm afraid I'll get harassed by the inmate and the guards. Still, I would have like to interview him for a project on WHY he killed those women. He didn't talk about that much and he would never give me an answer why. OK, I'm boring you, But why did that lady marry Richard????? Is she fucking crazy????? He's going to slaughter her and rip her up. I'd rather have married Dahmer cause he only killed women. That girl is good as dead and she is PRoud to be his wife??????? That's as sick as the Bundy marrige. What is she going to tell her children about their father. Daddy's a Serial killer!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!! That's too much for me:|

What did she see in him? "Oh, yes, I killed thirteen women and raped them." Girl-"oh, I am in love....." Still, I'd like for the picture of Richard(the famous one in chains at the court with the evil stare) autographed. I'd like to know more about serial killers and I'll tell you who I know about.

Ted Bundy, Jeffery Dahmer, Henery Lee Lucus, Ed Gein, Albert Fish(was children your favorite dish?), Zodiac, Night Stalker, James Pough, David Brom, Lourie Dann, Manson, Edmund Kemper, Andre Chickatello...., Mary Bell(the child from hell), Richard Speck(eight nurses you wrecked), John Wayne Gacy, David Berkowitz, Howard Unruh(what have you done now?), John Graham, Charles Whitman(school tower hitman), James Huberty, Patrick Sherrill, Ronald Gene Simmons, James Prudy, and many more.

If you have ever heard of the Death, thrash metal band called Macabre, you are in luck. This band has two LPs and a few Eps and their songs are on serial killers. It's fucking funny and the music is great(if you like the vocals).

Antonio, what's your story? How did you become in charge of answering killers' mail. Are you sympathising or empathising? Did you kill someone yourself, because if you didn't, we don't think that you are well enough qualified to understand what we and others like us feel.

Do you write to very many serial killers? I have written to different ones over the past few years. I am looking for stuff as far as envelopes and letters from certain killers.

In full, Wayne Williams and Jeffrey Dahmer... any type from Patrick Wayne Kearney, David Owen Brooks, Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten, full David Berkowitz, etc...

i love your website its full of info and the music gives it a fuckin' freaky mood

I'm doing a persuasive argument on eliminating Plea Bargaining from Criminal Courts. I am gathering information on Serial Killers/ Mass Murderers and any gruesom killers that copped a plea bargain. Are you familiar with any web pages that could help me with this?.. I haven't had a chance to fully look through yours yet although i will get to it this weekend. I also need some good pictures (by good I mean really scarry) of theese criminals. If you can/will help I would appreciate it. I only have 4 weeks to prepare my argument.

the dawn of satan is upon us the dusk of christianity draws near. SATAN is god, evil will triumph. HELL is closer than you think

Being a fan of forensics and foul crimes pages, would you kindly give consent to link your pages with mine, (in progress)? Mine will be more of a directory of info, public service, etc., but I need a "Hook" !!

I recall writing you before re: my ex-husband being locked up in Maximum Security in Los Angeles County -- right next to Richard Ramirez, circa 1985. (They're both guilty).

Right now, I don't like you very much. I am out of cigs, and I want to run out to the store to get some. Unfortunately, I've been reading your page and am scared to go out for fear of being some SK's next victim. Heck, I don't even feel safe in my own home right now.

Seriously, your page is incredibly interesting. I've stayed up past my bedtime on many a night reading it. Then, of course, I have trouble sleeping -- even with the lights on!

I do have a question for you, though. I'm a poor student, accessing the net through my free student account. I can only get the text version of the web, so I am unable to enjoy all your page has to offer. Anyway, my question is. . . what is the music you have playing on the page? I read some comments regarding it, and my curiosity is overwhelming.

I am trying to find out some information regarding a book i read several years ago and now cannot remember the name of it, nor the names of the people involved. All I remember is that it was about two housewives, and one murdered the other with an axe in the laundry room of the victim's home. Can anyone help me out with this? Also, I am always interested in new true crime novels, but I have strict criteria for reading it. The perpetrator must be caught and the book must cover the court case. Pictures are great, but not necessary. Anyone have any good suggestions? You can reach me at cirder19@mail.idt.net. 

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Dear Sirs/Mams,

What an inspirational page! Kinda makes me want to be a mass murderer. :) I've got the perfect place fellas and gals. San Angelo Shakeys, with all the innocent little children and onlooking in-the-closet types. I hate kids. Hate them. I have at my disposal a variety of semi-automatic handguns. Will you please put me on your page if I manage to pull off this indiscrable act of indecency???

Sincerely,
A pair of sick, twisted teenage girls

Wanted to let u know that I've been enjoying all the information on your site and will be returning often! I wondered if anyone can get some information for me?? Can anyone locate an address for ED KEMPER ? Would like to see if i could get a response from him. Thanks again for providing all us interested in the sick and twisted minds of serial killers with so much information.

i read your home page on serial killers and i thought it incredibley fascinating. from what i have read you obviously know your share of shit about these people. i would be more than greatful if you could send me some "serial killer" info. i want to learn more and more every second. as i was reading your homepage, i came upon a short paragraph with the question,"have you ever thought about stabbing someone?" well i have, have you? don't be judgmental and take me for a fucken psychopathic perverted freak, because i'm not. i'm just human. and i only though about stabbing a person who hurt for no reason. (my exboyfriend cheated on me) anyways, i'm sure you don't give a rats furry ass about what i have to say so goodbye.

To all you confused souls that are offended by this site. WAKE UP! THIS IS YOUR WORLD AND YOUR REALITY. This stuff happens everyday. Don't bury your head in the sand. You may have a serial killer right next door to you...or worse yet, in the room with you now. With enough outcry from the public, maybe the US will finally use the power of justice to do what it should be doing instead of keeping these mutants alive...FRY THE BASTARDS after a period of ONE YEAR. I'm tired of paying to have them eat, sleep, and watch TV, do drugs, and get conjugal visits. Wake up America. And by the way, this is a great site for the people that are brave enough to face reality.

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Four years ago, in a small Hudson River town, Garrison, my sister Molly and I were babysitting for a seven year old boy. It was eleven thirty and he still wasn't asleep. His parents had a stocked liquer cabinate, and we had been drinking heavily. When he came down stairs for the third time, we just snapped. Molly took the half empty bottle of absolut that was in her hand and broke it over his fragile head. Its amazing how easily the skin on someones scalp is removed when a thick piece of glass smashes against it. He collapsed to the floor and in horror we realized what had happened. Taking the boy, Molly and I ran far into the woods. There we colapsed and tried to think of what to do. We realized that there was evidence of foul play, and figured that if we were missing also that they would pin it on someone else. There was still the problem of the boy. We cut him into smaller pieces that would fit in our duffle bags,(we were to stay overnight.) Thinking that we were in the clear, we ran to the river, and swam across to the town of Highland Falls. We realized that we couldn't take the body with us, but it felt wrong to throw him away. We decided to get rid of all of him except for his head. We keep it in our house as a constant reminder of what we had done. From Highland Falls we hitched a ride to Penn Station, took a train to Miami and a boat to the small island of Vieques off of Puerto Rico. As of today, we have still not been found. The boy's head reminds us every day, that we are evil people. Until tonight we didn't think that there was anyone that we could talk to about this. Please write us and supply the guidance that we so need.

It makes me angry that we have become so desensitized to acts of violence. I feel like I'm the only person left who cares more about the victims of crime than their worthless murderers. I hate to be the one to fill in for the rest of the world, but it's true. They are worthless and should suffer for those they have made to suffer. It just goes to show how bad society has truly become when there are people praising killers and spitting on the memory of those slain. If this is the way people are, I am embarassed to be a human.

I have been trying to find info on this girl that I went to High School with. Her name at that time was Dana Armbrust. A extreemly beautiful blonne. I heard that she became Riverside County (CALIF) first female serial killer. As a nurse, she was taking care of elderly people in their homes and would kill them (by what method I'm not sure) and steal their credit cards. After school she married a neighbor of mine and then later started her killing spree. I heard that she was depressed because she couldn't have kids. I have been looking all over the web and I can't find any info on her and I don't talk to my old neighbor anymore so I can't find out what the story is. I think she was doing her killing in '95 or '96. Her married name is Dana Gray (Grey?).If you could point me in the right direction I would be very greatful, and if you could get a picture or her, she would make a very intersting addition to your page.

Jeffrey Dahmer was in "Unit D", upper block, cell #4. Unit D is a "special cases" unit, however it is not particularly extra secure. Dahmer had the same freedom of movement as the majority of inmates at Columnia. The assault by Scarver place in the gymnasium bathrooms while Dahmer and another inmate were on a clean-up detail. Unfortunately, I do not remember the other man's name, or I'd let you know so you caould ad it to your site. The weapon in question used by scarver was a dumbell bar from the weight room. Scarver used it to beat both men down. There could have also been a broom or mop handle involved, but I do not remember any such thing.

My friend is "obsessed" with serial killers. She isn't one.....she just thinks it is facinating that a person could do such things to someone. She has told me stories about killers she has read about.......i think they should all be killed the way they killed their victoms. But that is just my opinion.

March 16, 1997

I am a psychiatrist with interests in adolescent murderers. I came across your site cruising the Web. This is the last thing I expected to find tonight. My thanks to you for the hard work on such an unusual site. I appreciate the news archives which will prove useful in a long term project I have had for over ten years of cataloging news reports of teen murders. How did you ever get the idea for doing this?

Discovered your page today. Very well done! But....your right, the music is a little annoying and a search engine would be great. But what more can you expect for free?

I am a Correctional Peace Officer at the prison which houses Kemper. You make it sound as if Kemper is some kind of rehabilitated person when you wrote that he is our model prisoner with the heart of gold. He is neither. One thing you failed to mentioned is that Kemper is the man for whom the phrase "serial killer" was coined. This was told to me by a psychiatrist at C.M.F.

I used to work in the visiting center. Kemper would get visits from a semi-pretty blonde woman who really seemed to like him. They would embrace and kiss upon meeting then act like love birds. She's probably one of those "killer groupies".

I understand he has a problem dealing with female officers. He told me some wild stories that people don't believe.

think your section on the web is interesting. obviously it isn't for everyone but it does give some incredible insight to the cruelties of this world. i myself am a strong christian and I am somewhat appauled by the articles yet all it really is is a strong testament of true events. freedom of speech rules! it shouldn't be taken away from ANYONE.

I am seeking information about a serial killer that I cannot find listed with your web site. His name is Glennon Engelman - he was a serial killer in St. Louis, MO I know that he has two book and two movies out about him. He was a dentist in St. Louis, MO and he was a hitman on the side, he also had two master's degrees. He was very clever on his killings, in high school he did his first killing by rigging up an x-ray machine under a guy's bed and causing the man to die by radiation poisoning. He also used dry ice, and many other clever schemes. He did the killings for insurance money he would split it with the spouse that wanted the person dead. The reason I am interested in what is out there is that he was convicted of approx. eight murders, they thought he did 23 and he states that he lost track at 50! The books written about him were done solely by newspaper articles and court records and only tell about the eight that they were able to prove, he only granted an interview to one person about the killings and this man died before the book project got off the ground through bad health. I work in the prison as an RN and I deal with him on a daily basis, he is very intelligent and does not fit the profile of a serial killer. He has granted me an interview and I plan on writing a book about our interview and the killings, each one different and very intelligent, I do not however have a publisher yet. If you could help me find information on this man or if you know of publishers of books that would be interested, please e-mail me back.

Heed my warning. Hell is going to take over the World, all good will be crushe d, religion will shurlely fall into the hands of SATAN, and we will be left to Suffer. There is no more good left in the World that died inside of me year s ago start your ill bulshit right now not much time left I'd like to close by saying if there are any more people out there felling what I feel I love you R.I.P

Ijust wanted to complement you on your web site and how you've gone from a pretty lame one to an extraordinary one. The info you got on every criminal in your web page is cool and fucking bad. I wish you could put more images of the "Family" and good 'ol Charlie Manson as well on something of like guerillas from Mexico like the EZLN and a very famous one not from Mexico Che Guevarra. I guess that's all I have to say and keep up the body count.

Let me start off by saying--I'm no freak! In fact I'm a Criminal Justice Major at a major University, and would love to see everybody that has killed--be killed. But give the dead a rest. The little crack at the beginning of the Dahmer page about God chopping him up was over the line.

Actually before he died he was converted to the Lord ways. But you don't seem to mention that. I might not either since what he did was so horrible. But just don't make a mockery of him and the Lord that he came to beleive in before his death.

Ijust wanted to complement you on your web site and how you've gone from a pretty lame one to an extraordinary one. The info you got on every criminal in your web page is cool and fucking bad. I wish you could put more images of the "Family" and good 'ol Charlie Manson as well on something of like guerillas from Mexico like the EZLN and a very famous one not from Mexico Che Guevarra. I guess that's all I have to say and keep up the body count.

I am doing research on a serial killer named Duncan McKenzie. He was convicted of murder in 1975 and recently executed in 1995. Yes, it took 20 years. He killed two women in Montana and I am seeking to locate other vicims. The time would be 1973 - the last six months of 1973. He worked as a truck driver in the Spokane area during that time. The victim could have been found anywhere in the Pacitic Northwest- probably Washington State, Oregon or Idaho. She would have been raped and murdered by beating and/or strangulation. The body would not have been hidden, instead it would have been displayed (nude) in a prominent place. Because its over twenty years old I am having trouble finding an source of possible victims or leads to possible victims. Since the crimes occurred twenty years ago no one seems to care. Can anyone help me. I am at mckenzie97@hotmail

There was one detail of Bob Berdela's case that you didn't mention - the cops never found most of the bodies, even though Berdela told them exactly where they were - in the city landfill. He chopped them up and threw 'em in the trash. Then he'd nervously peek out the window until the garbage men did his work for him. The police figured it would cost millions to find the bodies - if they could.

I'm doing a persuasive argument on eliminating Plea Bargaining from Criminal Courts. I am gathering information on Serial Killes/ Mass Murderers and any gruesom killers that copped a plea bargain. Are you familiar with any web pages that could help me with this?.. I haven't had a chance to fully look through yours yet although i will get to it this weekend. I also need some good pictures (by good I mean really scarry) of theese criminals. If you can/will help I would appreciate it. I only have 4 weeks to prepare my argument.

I read a while back abotu a killer who originally won the SILVER STAR in WWII in the Pacific Theatre and then came back to the states to become a serial killer. He would pick up prositutes, kill them, shove their bodies in his hotel bathroom, and go out to get another. This would continue until he was 3-5 bodies deep. He was arrested on a minor offense and when in prison got in touch with some mafia people, did a few hits in prison including one where he beat the guy with a bread board to break his back and paralyze him, then cut up his face with a knife [The point was to let the target be a living example to what happens when you nark on the mob]. After he got out of prison, he did a few more mob jobs, but then got mad at his wife and killed her. Police got him for his wife, the linked him to other killings. After being sent up for being a serial killer, the US took away his Silver Star. Now, WHO WAS THIS GUY?

It is a shame that some people have no respect for the dead or the families of the dead. I find the crime pages interesting, but your derogatory comments are unnecessary. And this music thing is really whacked, maybe you guys are the people to be added to the page.

When are we ever going to learn about statements about serial killers being caucasian? (white? most say). Right. Tell it to Corona, Ramirez, and Gallego. Tell it to Russell, his bros in So.Africa & my fellow homie from Richmond,Ca. who just got arrested for the killings in Oklahoma. The way I figure it, the FBI is every bit as ethnocentric as the liberals have always claimed & just don't understand the motivations that drive people of other cultures. I mean, how could anyone believe that serial killing doesn't exist in Cambodia or Korea? Not a bad train of thought for a mere hobbyist, Huh? I wish the experts would start devoting a little more time in this area before French Canadians or some other little understood group get away with too many murders .

I like the content of your web pages, but you gotta take off those sound files. I would have spent longer here, but those sounds are really annoying. Sorry.

All of these people will face the judgement of Jesus Christ one day. If they do not repent of their sins they will spend eternity in hell.

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So here they go again, "lost souls" believed not to be placed within reality of this Univerce. Oh, well, even if there is a higher power of Darkness, which they seem to enslave in, it will not embrace them. Such childish manner only leads to unlawful doing.

I take pity upon them, but no one's sorry. Let us all be well and gay - I hear more laughing then wipping.

I'm a frequent visitor to your intriguing Web site. I discovered it through word of mouth and it's been in my Favorites listing ever since. I'm impressed by the way you've organized your site and the vast information you provide, especially about the lesser-known serial killers. At first, I was taken aback by the tone of the writing, but I've come to appreciate your campy style.

I've always been fascinated by the psychological factors that drive a person to kill over and over, and I've done much reading and research on the topic. I wondered how you found researchers and writers to contribute to your site because I am very interested.

I keep hoping to see a hyperlink reading Women Serial Killers. You mention women throughout the listings, but lately, I've become particularly curious about women serial killers and if and how their pre-hunt thought process differs from that of male serial killers. This could be something quite interesting. Just thought I'd share, but if you could get back to me on how I might be able to contribute here, I'd really appreciate it.

Dear Cult Ex-members

I propose a campaign, 1997-99, to:

1 Sue the cult in every federal court
2 Remove the tax-free status (the IRS are being helpful and want to see it gone)
3 Sue the cult as a private corporation to bankruptcy
4 Imprison the leadership
5 Buy the witches' temple and burn it down

That should be therapeutic for the families of the members who committed suicide on Klemp's instructions (the evidence is available), the ex-members who have suffered or who are suffering mental collapse, and the people who are terrified in various cities in America and other countries.

Please send to pgup@c2.net:

1 Evidence or information on inducement to make donations
2 Evidence or accounts of Eckankar's terrorisation of anyone
3 Evidence or information on fraud, or any other crime
4 Additional evidence of suicides/suspicious deaths of members or ex-members
5 Evidence or accounts of any instructions from Klemp or Morimitsu or any other member, via mind control, "soul travel", or telepathy
6 Lawyers who will help

Pgup@c2.net will coordinate, and then send out a picture of what we have. Then, unless someone has a better first step, we go to the federal courts.

By the way, an ex-member's account is on: http://www.c2.net/~pgup

I just wanted to say that whoever put this webpage together is one sick bastard. I was testing a new browser that happened to crash on your cannibal page. Seek help my friend, even if you're desensitized to this kinda crap, it's taking it's toll mentally. The fact that you sensationalize these acts is even more degrading. Other than that I hope you have a good day.

Gary Heidnick, I am sure you have heard of him he was the white man that held blk women mostly from state hosp. in his basement chained and beat them. he was also extremely rich from the stock market from which he started off with 30,000 that he had saved from disability from the military that he recieved 1800 a month from but since most of his free life he was in instutions all of his monthly money kept adding up in a bank till he turned it over to the stock market where he turned it into 500,000 and he had also wall papered on of his rooms in his large home n dollar bills this guy is good. he as welll owned and operated a church so he did not have to pay taxes on any of his money the church consisted of 4- 6 members all retarted blk women from the hosp.

Oh, wow how could i have forgotten to add the fact that he enjoyed making the other girls cook the ones that he had killed?

Glad the site's back up. A minor correction for the Jim Jones blurb: Not all of Congressman Ryan's party got killed. Jackie Spier, then his aide, got shot, but survived as did at least one other person. She then became a state Assemblywoman here in California. In promoting gun control legislation, she has made pretty good mileage out of getting shot at Jonestown. A paraphrased quote: "Well, I've been shot before. Have you?" Just a little nitpick.

Anyhow, when do you suppose the cops'll haul in the little model girl's pop for her rape and murder? Can you even imagine parents forcing a five year old girl to look like a burnt-out barbie who'd been rode hard and put away wet NOT killing her? On the other hand, "experts" who were shown the Globe pics say that the killing was accidental, a sexual battery "gone too far".

Hi Antonio. Here is Marion from Austria again.

1.) It's now confirmed that the trial of Elfriede Blauensteiner will start on the 10th of February.

2.) Villisca is a small town in Iowa, where 8 people (a whole family and two visiting children) were killed with an axe in June 1912. Although there have been some suspects no one has been convicted and this has remained one of the worst unsolved cases of massmurder within the United States.

Recently a documentary film about Villisca has been made and the producers have created some web-sites about the film and the case itself. From there you can get all the information I have.

Please go to: http://members.aol.com/fwprods/villisca.html
http://members.aol.com/fwprods/journal.html
http://members.aol.com/fwprods/emporium.html

3.) Some years ago there have been two reports in german TV about a similar case in Germany in 1926, an axe-killing of 6 people on a farm near the little village of Hinterkeifeck. Unfortunately I have not recorded these reports but as far as I can remember it was an extremely mysterious case including inzest (a few month old baby, one of the victims, was believed to be the result of a sexual relationship between the farmer and his daughter, who also were victims) and a vanished brother who was supposed to have returned and committed the crime, although there was no motive or proof for this.

When the cops investigated the crime, they were told by neighbors that "Strangers" have been seen walking around in the days before the murder. Nevertheless police always believed that someone from nearby had done it.

After worldwar II, this means more than 20 years after the crime a man was even charged but was aquitted.

All through the years there have been rumors that some people from the village knew what really had happened, but although the killer(s) must be also dead now right now. Nowone has come foreward so far to tell the truth.

If I can get better information about this case I will send it to you, because I think, this also deserves a place on your mass-murderer-list.

4.) At the moment I'm collecting informations abouth the Texarkana-phantom killer who murderd five people in 1946 and about an Austrian massmurder case with 5 victims at the beginning of the nineties.

As I might have mentioned I'm especially interested in famous unsolved murder cases. Nevertheless all information on your web-site is extremely interesting and a MUST for every crime-junkie.

In the mind of a SERIAL KILLER the victim serves to bring back memories of someone who embarrassed, humiliated, sexually and physically abused the SK earlier in life. The SK transfers feelings of hat, rage, fear, anger onto victim in an attempt to remove the memories of humilation.Since the victim is not the actual target there is no release of memory: the killings must continue.

Most Salient characteristics of SK,are:
1. Ability to compartmentalize people and events.
2. Refusal to admit guilt or femorse.
3. Sense of entitlement.

Most SK suffer the following commonalities,especially during childhood:
1. Bed wetting past age 12.
2. Setting fires.
3. Cruelty to animals.
4. Loners in school.

Pathology is typical of the antisocial personality disorder assoc. with the majority of SK. Recent studies have found that the primary gratification for SK is achieving power over others, usually with gross sexual implications. Unlike other antisocial personality disorders SK do not display the reckless and impulsive behavior characteristic of this psychopathology. SK no doubt lack a sense of remorse but they know it and work to hideit. Thus many SK are well liked by neighbors and coworkers though in general they are reclusive and loners.

Richard Ramirez is a man possesed by his own hell. His only means of escaping is to kill.

I, like many others I've discovered, am an enthusiast of the serial/mass killer genre. It concerns friends and family, but unlike these damaged mutants that fascinate me, I have no compulsion to take human life. It's their stories that intrigue me. Why did they do these terrible things... those explanations, though not at all any excuse, are quite worthy of mention in news and medical journals.

Another morbid habit I have is wondering, sometimes aloud, where the next one will be found. Do I know him/her? What will be the preferred method of 'release', if you will. I have gone so far as to write scary little stories about such individuals with my own twisted 'signature' of the killer... This is a subject best left at home when out to dinner with close friends. Anyway, this is a very informative area of cyberspace and I wish you luck in the future.

PS-Some of those letters from visitors must give you a chill from time to time....

Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:52:43 -0500 (EST)
To: elvision@mayhem.net
Subject: child abductions and murders

It seems that with as many children who are abducted, murdered or never found there must be a few child serial killers in the U.S. I suspect a pattern in Tennessee and Kentucky. Is there any talk of a child killer in this area. Cases I am following Morgan Violi abducted from Bowling Green, KY, body found in Springfield Tn., Jackie Beard Abducted from Clarksville TN, body found in unknown location. Also Morgan Nick of Alma Arkansas not found. Also a four year old abducted in a shopping center parking lot the day after Morgan Violi's abduction and on the same route the abductor might have traveled to the place he left Morgan's body. What do you know? Where does your info come from?

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Subject: the way international

Just a note to let you know that we now have a working website up concerning the way it is at:
http://www.trancenet.org/

I will let you know when we get a responce from an ex-member who killed his entire family in one night . As I have written to him to ask about his experience.

Great freakin site. I don't think Soledad will be talking about it soon, but who gives a damn. Laid out well! Music is gratingly wonderful.

I'm a screenwriter turned thriller writer/ SK's are my choice. I met Manson in January of 68 when he came through the Haight Asbury. He was dropping off Linda Kasabian, she was pregnant. He stayed at a guy named Mikes off Haight St. I was invited up to hear him sing and brought by charlie to the bus with Tex, He looked at me , across the table and told me " Ya know, God talks to me and I, after having my LSD trips said , Wow, He talks to me too!--I guess I didn't qualify as sufficiently missing my center to ride with the Charles to L.A./ He had by the Fug's account probably killed several hippie transients by then. They were sizing me up for joining the family/ they invited me to L.A. and to stay with them at the beach boys managers house where charlie was going to record an album. I declined and went to Mexico for more senseless death experiences of my own.

I have always wanted to transmogrify an SK's inner life . Anyway, great site. I'm on the hunt for 12 exceptional S.Killers for my next novel. No deviant mass murders. Pure S.K.

I was checking out your site on serial killers and mass murderers. It certainly does have a lot of info, but I do have one gripe with it. Ithink it is very important to distinguish the difference between serial killers and mass murderers, as well as lay out what defines each. Many people might think that killing two people makes a serial killer, but the standard to acheive this definition is 3 or 4. Also, there is a big difference between insanity, and legal insanity that your site may wish to address. (I am a Forensic Psychology Major)

Thank you for one of the finer sites I have seen so far on the web. A grisly subject to be sure. But absolutely facinating. I'm not sure if you can - And I know your site deals mostly with past history - but, I would like to see the cult section expanded if possible to include a comprehensive listing of "Dangerous" cults. I'm sure there is some legal you could get around things. I am especially interested in cults similar to Koresh's. And there are plenty of them. One in particular near Abilene Texas called the "House of Yahweh." This one will be the next trouble maker. It's led by a nut named Buffalo Bill Yisrayl Hawkins. At last report he was tied with the Michigan militia, stockpiling weapons and planning for a final armaggedon. He's kind of a cross between Koresh and Jim Jones.

At any rate, there are plenty of additional fruitcakes worth adding to your site.

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:05:59 -0800
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Mi' lords & ladies;

Good evening. My name is Sid and I am writing in regards to NATHAN BROOKS. I feel an attachement or connection with this guy and I would appreciate any or all photos or articles you have of him to satisfy my appetite. I am aware of busy web pages; I have one myself, (but I play music-) but if you have the time to address me I would find it indeed helpfull to my dreary obsession with but another TAKER... Although I must say this guy gets my attention: I like it when they start young. I think I just might have to look him up-

Most Misanthropicly Yours,

Sid

Congratulations on the comprehensiveness of your Serial Killer Hit List! However, I think you may have missed one (unless my reading was in error) - GEORGE WATERFORD RUSSELL - The "Eastside Serial Killer", King County (Seattle) , Washington. As Commander(Retired) of the King County Police Major Crimes Division, I was commander of the Green River Serial Murder Investigation and the Eastside Serial Killer Investigation. We arrested, charged, and convicted RUSSELL in 1992 for the murder of 3 women over a 3 1/2 month period. His idol was Ted Bundy, another Washington State gem. RUSSELL is now at Walla Walla State Penitentiary. Let me know if I can provide any additional information or if I am in error and missed George in the Archives.

I love your web page. That butthole that keeps puting you guys down sucks. If he doesn't like this page then he shouldn't come here. He better hope I never find out where he lives.

I find Charles Manson intriguing. There's something wrong with people today. They just don't go out with semi-automatic wepons and blow a bunch of people away anymore.

Someone after my own heart... sick and twisted...

The young Vampire cult: There are MANY young kids in my small hometown who are into this. Even my own 18 and 21 year old daughters... they do not do the blood games and such, but are very much into the roll playing part of it.

A little over a year ago a young boy was beaten to death, and the killers went back into the house and continued to party.... what was not released (And may or may not have played a roll) was that all three of these young men (The victim and the two killers) were very much into the vampire roll playing.... Do you think that such interest lowers the value of life by making it easier for someone who is disposed to do such things do such things?

Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 01:17:26 -0800
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First of all, I'd like to say, I love your page! I am currently in the process of making a similar page devoted to criminal snipers. However, I believe you have made a mistake about Ted Bundy. Although he did try to bargain for time near the end, meaning after his Death warrant had been signed, he didn't try to stall his execution in the courts. His only Appeals were the one required by the state of Florida, and those orchestrated by volunteer attorney's. Of course, I could be wrong, but I think you may want to investigate this matter further.

Sniper_666

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your hellish java is eating my computer but please see

http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/gone_bad.html and gone_bad2.html

both concern self-styled "vampires" and both seem to have been produced by the role-playing game "Vampire:The Masquerade". I think I am on a jihad against that game and the cult that plays it. Maybe. Any suggestions or other leads?

1) Is it just me, or are the multiple murderers hiding these days? Granted, the Archives are full of villains, but I thought the multicide rate would dramatically snowball as the millenium draws to a close. Perhaps they're simply becoming more capable, more discreet, more adept at utilizing the proper technologies to avoid detection and capture. Still, we haven't had a truly horrific serial crime since the Wests and the Belgian pedophiles. I know it sounds heartless to complain about an atrocity deficit, but I expected more from the scum of society. C'est la vie.

2) Like you (I imagine) my taste in true-crime runs more towards serial, mass and bizarre murder than your standard 'crime of passion' type of occurence, but I've been getting on a serious Mafia kick lately, my imagination having been fired by my mom's stories of our family's mild connections with the Gambino family. Having seen and read 'Casino', I've been looking for a book on Tony Spilotro (Pesci's character in the flick) called 'Enforcer', written by William Roemer. Is there any assistance you can offer in this regard?

Hey is killing wrong in a world that can no longer provide enough resources to feed its people? What difference does it make if it's done by an individual or if it's state sanctioned? Perhaps the state can make better choices based on medical technology but it's still the same effect in the end. Blah blah blah..............

I AM WAITING FOR YOU. I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT. THE GODS HAVE GIVEN ME THE POWERS I CRAVED FOR SO LONG. I AM COMING. SOON I WILL BE THERE.

Hi! I'm an Australian student who is studying Human Biology and Psychology at university currently, and I have an interest in perhaps going on to do 'forensic anatomy' but am also interested in Medicine, which I am applying for a transfer to. During my studies, I've come across some extremely interesting cases and am interested in your research methods. As I live in Australia, I am also considering attempting to go to Tazmania to interview, if possible, our most hated citizen, Martin Bryant, who the media here have absolutely roasted! I feel sorry for him, he seems to be a lonely and rather slow individual with a history of neglect. Anyway, how does one manage to interview someone like that in jail??? By the way, I must say that your style is likely to make you enemies who automatically take it to heart. I think I'd probably 'tone it down' if it were my page- but it's not mine is it? :) Good luck!

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:57:28 +0000
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As a person concerned with cult information, I want to make you aware of a couple of great web sites relating to the Seventh-day Adventists. I have personal knowledge of this group having spent the first 23 years of my life there. I left them 17 years ago when I came to understand the gospel while attending Bellevue Baptist Church in Memphis, TN (pastor Adrian Rogers). I was trying to achieve salvation by works during my years with the SDAs.

You will here some in their group claim they believe in salvation by Grace, however, push for clarification on this issue and you will find they believe you can lose your salvation and as you discuss it further you realize their definition of salvation by Grace is quite different from what you and I believe.

Until Dr. Walter Martin with CRI classified them as a Christian denomination with unorthodox teaching, all other evangelicals had classified them as a cult. I have nothing but respect for all the fine work Dr. Martin did in identifying so many cultic teachings in other groups, but I think he had the wool pulled over his eyes on this group. That is easily done since they are constantly contradicting themselves.

The most dangerous part is the fact that they rely so heavily on the writings of their "prophet", Ellen White. The web sites I am recommending to you give great evidence that she plagiarized most of her supposedly "inspired" writings. Most of this information came out in the early 1980s but the SDAs have only grown more cultic and insist on her inspiration and authority equal to the canon of Scripture. She is their infallible interpreter of Scripture. She is their "pope".

Please, consider linking these informational web sites from your site.

http://www.pe.net/~dsparks/egwindex.html

http://www.bible.ca/7-plagiarism.htm

I came to this page while looking for information on Martin Bryant. Although your "collection" of murderers is nothing if not eclectic, I would not be honest if I did not say I was a little shocked at the way the information was presented.

To any gun loving moron out there on the Net (and we know they are there), this page might easily appear to them as though the evil killers on this website are revered heroes. Phrases such as "impressive trail of blood" etc could be construed as glorifying their inhuman acts.

I admit to having a morbid streak to my personality. I read Whodunnits and watch Murder mysteries on TV, and read articles about serial killers. But the people documented on this page aren't fictional, or some gung-ho Wild West legends, or even characters from "Pulp Fiction".

They are sad, pathetic and often insane men who wanted a blaze of glory without feeling the slightest compassion for their victims or the victims' families. I just think the tone in which you write of these murderers is a little gleeful.

i know koresh was a nut in society's eyes, but if people believed in what he was doing, and they were acting under their own volition, then I really don't see why what he did was so terrible.

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We inform you that we have an English version and a special pages about the story of Belgian children murdered by Marc Dutroux in English and French. The address of Melissa and Julie pages are:

French: http://www.unitelefilm.it/Clv/Francaise/scompar3.htm
English: http://www.unitelefilm.it/Clv/English/scompar3.htm


WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR 1975? THOR CHRISTIANSON, SERIAL KILLER MURDERED THREE COLLEGE GIRLS IN SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA AND TRIED AGAIN IN L.A. ONE OF THE ABOVE GIRLS WAS MY COUSIN. I AM TRYING TO FIND FILES ON THE WHOLE CASE, INCLUDING THE MURDERING OF THOR CHRISTIANSON HIMSELF. 

Dark wind blasts through the chimes of my soul
Their wchoing mettalic screams seem harmonius now
As the shining chimes fall back into place
        Twisted are the strings
If the chimes count as the intellect
        Then the strings are the means

My heart eclipses
Soul fangs gleam in the night
A vampire I have become
When darkness arises, so di I
        For shadows are my definition
Born in rage, freezing grief, and humiliation
I laugh in horrific glee

As I loom before you
Your end is lurking near
As your stomcach shrinks in shievering fear and mortal worry
you cry out, "What is it I have done?"
In a lught, yet a piercing scream I reply
        "If humanity was created in Gods image,
        Then you have summoned a demon!"
Cruel laughter the incantation.

my name is lisa and i am a student of human behavior. serial killers to be more specific. i have only corresponded with one killer...David Brown who had his daughter, Cinnamon Brown, kill his wife. i am very interested in learning about these people and trying to figure out what makes them the way that they are. It isn't conventional insanity.

i found your web page fascinating. i had gone to the web and typed in Robin Gecht, and found your page. please let me know how i can correspond with some of these people that you mentioned in your page (obviously, some are dead). i have always wanted to write my thesis about the laws that govern us today on insanity. the fact that there are men (and women) out there who are capable of committing such horrific crimes, and yet in the eyes of the law are found sane. there has to be a middle ground.

i realize that these people are sociopaths, and for the most part are functioning individuals in society, however, somewhere along the way they veered off in their thinking and in their reasoning ability. you can read about these people forever, but the only way to truly understand is to get to know them personally.

ALL YOU MANSON LOVING FREAKS CAN SUCK MY FAT DICK

I am 18 years of age and I feel a strong force that is I believe in my blood I feel compelled to kill. I like the styLe of David Berkowitz I too desire to use a .44 caliber weapon my choice is the Colt Anaconda. I would like to kill women lots of them pretty ones with long dark hair. Ted Bundy is also one of my favorites. Do you rember the "Trash Bag Murders"? I thought that those were quite interesting considering I live so close to Redondo Beach. I figure I wont or try not to kill until I am mature enough to do the things that I desire so much to do. In a couple of years i'll have my way.

SOMETIMES I WONDER WHY PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE SLEEPING AT NIGHT. AS I READ WHAT YOU OFFER THE AMERICAN PUBLIC (COMPUTER PUBLIC), WHAT YOU PUT AT THEIR FINGER TIPS, I ONLY PRAY THAT THIS TYPE OF BOGUS BS IS REMOVED FROM THE NET. HOW CAN A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN WANT TO HAVE PART OF THIS. MEANING YOU. YOU PUT IT TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND THE 1ST AMENDMENT. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SEND KILL MESSAGES. WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY.

If Charles Manson is ever let out into society, hide your children!!! I think we may have another Hitler on our hands. Rebecca Sterling

Early childhood trauma can be found in most future SKs. You probably know most of SKs were adopted or brought up by surrogate parents Their deep anger and hate toward women could be traced to their upbringing. A lot of SKs were actualy "killing" their mothers,like the two Eds, Gein and Kemper.

I am Sergei Shukunda, a researcher at the University of Kazan, Russia. I am now doing some research on what we call "extremist sects" in Russia. The project has as its aim some recommendations for the government departments, mass media, parents and the general public on how to avoid being involved in the practice of the reactionary cults that are similar to the Order of the Solar Temple in Europe or Aum sect in Japan or Jim Jones's or David Koresh's groups in the US.

This topic has become important in Russia as we now have a lot of totalitarian sects that involve young people, brainwash them and take their property from them. Examples are Maria Devy Kristos sect or Vessarion group. There are lots of suffering caused by the activities of such groups, because families are broken, children leave schools, run away with their gurus and sometimes commit suicide. The wave of such religious extremism is caused by the overall instability in the country and the absence of experience in dealing with religious extremists.

The new freedom of religion that Russian now has is not founded on the legislation that would not allow impostors of all kinds to steal the souls of young people. I think it would make sense to study the experience of a country that for 2 centuries learned how to compromise freedom with common sense and the rule of law. Although the US has had its own problems with religious extremism I think this country must have some mechanisms in the form of proper legislation, public organizations or the like that protect people.

I am sorry for this long introduction. Now I would like to state my request: if possible, could you give me the names of US universities where extremist cults are studied or the names of particular researchers who do this kind of research (e-mail addresses) so I could get in touch with them directly and try to find out some more information on the subject?

Richard Chase! In some ways, my favorite murderer. When he was released from psychiatric care his parents were aware of his delusions and misguided behavior, but they were ashamed of him and decided the best thing to do was to pay his rent for him and hope...to not think about it.

His father made a cryptic comment to the effect that Richard's idea that he was being poisoned by his mother might in fact be due to something she did. Maybe she put soap in his food and told him it was poison...something. He was a truly deranged individual--the only "disordered offender" *I* know of-- who committed murder like a monster in a movie: he'd go out and move house to house, look in people's windows; eventually he started shooting in the windows.

His grand finale was to enter a house with a woman and child. He shot the woman and infant, cut the mother open and drank some of her blood out of a yogurt cup, shit in her mouth then took the baby with him. What is really almost funny is that everything he did progressed gradually but inexorably...there were really alarming "signals" that the neighbors didn't react to with enough probity, one might say...

They saw him for several days before his big spree walking in and out of his apartment, always dressed in the same red parka and always *carrying a shotgun*!! Beyond the pale even in Sacramento! But nobody called the cops or anything. And the way the man looked was like a total lunatic, I mean this wasn't simply a man carrying a shotgun around (which would be discomforting enough) but a really loony looking character, long unkempt hair, very spooky eyes.

One of the last William Friedkin movies was based on this case, but Friedkin and the screenwriters did a total hack job on the project. They turned Richard into a "Hannibal Lecter" style criminal (please, enough of the "brilliant, artistic" serial murderer/cannibal model in movies, glorifying serial murder as if it were somehow "intelligent". It's the fucking Nazi model anyway...

William Friedkin used to be a great director and produced the great homoerotic dark camp classic "To Live and Die in L.A." every since the man is turning to shit...was this movie called "Outrage" or maybe I'm thinking of "Outbreak" which was such an incredibly shitty adaptation of "The Hot Zone"... Anyway, it totally sucks.

I was looking through your database on Serial Killers and ran across a listing about Micijah & Wiley Harpe, killers from the 1790's. This is great information for me, they are in my family history. Is there anyway to contact the historian Paul I. Wellman? I would very much like to get in contact with him ASAP! Any info would be great!

Did you hear about the guy who put an ass in his oven and roasted it. What was he thinking about? You can be sure, I will spend the whole night trying to figure it out.

I am seeking information about a killer of children in Michigan in the late 60's to early 70's, I think. I think he was nicknamed the Babysitter. There was something about him having fed a child chicken after a mother went on Tv and pleaded for the child's return and said the child liked fried chicken. This killer was known for leaving dead children, usually boys I believe, with ironed clothing and neatly arranged by the sides of roads. I think he strangled the kids, not sure if there was homosexuality involved.

oh wow. i just read your serial killers page. it took awhile but it was worth it. pretty interesting stuff, although i'm not gonna kill anyone i can certainly identify with a lot of what was going on.

"Some people say that once every 24 hours light triumphs over darkness. I like to think that once every 24 hours darkness triumphs over light."

Read your amusing piece on John Lindley Frazier, one problem, he didn't do it. He didn't murder the Ohta family, there were three killers that night. John was framed for the eye surgeons death. It was a political set up, because the good eye doctor was a respected resident of Santa Cruz. Dig deeper, the police were chasing 3 men that night from the scene of the crime. There was no way John could have committed all of the murders in the allotted amount of time. Oh, and you might check into that phony search of the rabbit hutch for the gun. The second search, not the first, found the weapon. And while your investigating, check out Bert and his ties to drugs and gambling. He was in so deep, he would've traded his own mothers name for that reward. John did not kill the Ohta family.

I think it all comes down to an estrogen imbalance. I was twelve at the time Sylvia Seegrist lost her shit at the Springfield Mall. I had gone there to get some Halloween stuff and have a crepe at the Magic Pan with my mother when this camo-clad chic comes through the mall entrance we had just come through. I wouldn't have noticed her if it were not for the fact she was toting what looked like a .22 rifle and was wearing a winter cap on an unseasonably warm October day. The mall had a real bad reputation for years afterwards.

The next night I was out trick-or-treating as a Camouflaged Ninja, and every house I stopped at thought I was distastefully dressing as Miss Seegrist, but it was just a coincidence. So, at any rate, she not only ruined my day at the mall, but she screwed up my Halloween, too. She was a real tweeker, I usually prefer my mass-murderers to have a bit more style about them, she didn't even say anything too cool at the time. Pretty lame, she certainly wasn't a George Jo Hennard.

Your pages are wonderful and always give me something of an outlet. I can't stop coming back. Every time I read some idiot's post... I feel like screaming...Oh lucifer... whine whine whine. Is that all these people know how to do? I have to get the following out of my system.

"This page is so tasteless it makes me sick." No, it isn't tasteless, my lovely little idiot, it's informatory.. It doesn't seek to glamorize, it seeks to inform. If it's so sick, exactly what were you looking for when you found it? Barbie's House of Toys? "In the meantime, I would appreciate if you kept your "amusing" comments to your FUCKING self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I would also appreciate it if you would keep *your* "amusing" comments to yourself... Practice what you preach.. which leads me to: "For the record: I am an advocate of freedom of expression on the "net" and an avid supporter of free speech. This, in turn, gives ME the freedom to express my opinions as to the ignorant(and often misguided or misinformed) individuals." Oh, how open-minded of you... Honey, it's only your narrow-minded view that these people are "ignorant and often misguided or misinformed." Yet, you treat it as if it were fact. Don't think so highly of yourself, and maybe your comments will be a little bit more open to serious consideration. "PS If any of the "big words" are giving you any trouble..." big words? the one word you have managed to show your mastery of in that baseless rant is "fucking." Oh how educated! Simply extraordinary. Your parents must be so proud of you, as am I.

Now, for the rest of the people who give constructive criticism without exploding like the aforementioned visitors, I appreciate their calm and understanding manner, whether or not they agree with me... but those who explode, trying to force me into their views deserve to be flogged, for lack of a better word. It's this type of preaching that I loathe and will fight back against... Jehovah's Witnesses and "evangelical" Christians especially. They have to realize that they are not going to change somebody's mind my being so frantic and rushed, almost manic, in delivering their opinions. It doesn't help and it doesn't work, it only displays their lack of eloquence and thoughtfulness. Of course I realize that my dream society, sans ignorance, will not happen, but I can at least hope that those with a surface knowledge of a subject don't attempt to preach it to others.

People this day and age are really pathetic. I think that this page is very informative, and I want to applaud your efforts and har work in making this page very interesting. It just makes me sick to see how people can be so shallow. I mean, why would anyone in their right mind pay money for a refrigerator that was previously used for housing body parts? Or better yet, pay homage to the obviously demented Dahmer estate and purchase it for an impressive amount of money.

Kudos to you and your team on THE bloodiest site on the net. It was so real, I could almost taste it! You are my hero. It takes a special person to create a resoure like this. My only wish is that I had thought of it first!!

Keep up with the awesome work, god knows there are enough of use busy little bees out there to keep you on your toes! Perhaps I too may one day grace the screens of thousand of twisted individuals like myself. That is if I get caught...

In case you hadn't already heard: Ottis Toole just died today or yesterday, in a prison hospital.

Tried to get somemore info on Rick Chase for you at my HS reunion but failed miserably. But I do remember a story about Richard. He was parked at McDonalds which was were we scored marijane cigarettes and he masturbated in his car and squirted it on the roof of his car.

I guess there's nothing that beats holding the smoking shotgun yourself..... But these pages are a good number two.

Thanks for being the only page out there listing Albert Fish. I picked up a paperback while on a road trip to Oregon some eight years ago depicting the man and his life. I thought it was ironic because I'm from the particular region in New York where the Fish political family has a long and distinguished public service record (the patriarch of the modern family, Hamilton Fish, passed recently)and I never knew anything about the twisted roots on the Fish family tree until I got way out west. I still have not seen a copy of this book for sale in New York. Is there anything else on him ? I'm interested because this man is said to have had every know psychological disorder known to man at the time of diagnosis, and to have been responsible for the labelling of then-new disorders. That's incredible.

Have you ever heard of a criminal in Victorian England that the press called "Spring-Heeled Jack ? I saw a period depiction of him once in the eighth grade, and have never been able to shake the image from my mind. It gave no description of his crime, but I think it was robbery and escape via impossibly high leaps and bounds over prison and courtyard walls. I 've been looking, but Jack the Ripper gets most of the attention for serial killers and criminals in that era. In fact, there's a page out there that you can find by putting "Jack the Ripper" in on Web Search (I use WebCrawler) that shows the photos of Jack's victims. If you download this, you'll want to click on "Victim's Page", and then click on the head shot of Catherine Eddowes for the most detailed photograph. It really hits you that history has romanticized a real fucking animal.

Something tells me this is very much tongue in cheek, albeit factual. This demented fascination/shockfest is disturbing, pretty much on the mark, and (please, God forgive me), funny. Funny in the way you do your synopsis. Funny because I have a similarly disturbing unofficial hobby - "weirdest ways people can die." Very unofficial. But the guy who was killed by his own bowling ball is fascinating. Or the woman swept away by a freak wave while scattering her suicide mom's ashes.

Okay, it's sick, like watching a freeway accident. Educational - yes. I did a term paper on Murder - methods and motives. I subsequently began dating a guy with a collection of books on serial killers. I quit dating him because I was unsure if he was murdering women vicariously.

I am a university student currently studying criminology and psychology. The extent of your research is remarkable, and has proved to be extremely useful. My only complaint comes from the addition of personal feelings toward the killers in the material. By referring to the subjects as coming "from hell," and regarding them as "white trash," you add a sense of unprofessionalism which takes away from your work. However, I would like to congratulate you on your efforts to provide information to the rest of the world. You are all greatly appreciated.

Aren't you a little worried that someday some sicko will say, "Gosh, mama, I hope some day I'm at the top of the Serial Killer Hit List," and use your site to rank his killings? I'd bet within the next year (or maybe it has already happened) you get a letter saying "watch me, I'll be number one" or something. There are many side-effects to your site, even though you do make fun of the killers (but they would be too stupid to understand it).

Heavens - I have seen lots of sites - but this one takes the cake.

With the total body count you could empty a small country, like Liechtenstein. Away from the material itself it is a good and professional designed page. I have seen others far off from being such well-engineered and I'm able to appreciate that. I guess it was a lot of work collecting all the facts, names, numbers and final results (living and dead). Do you still have a good sleep at nights ? No impact on your personal life? I wonder.

Today it's common to fear being killed by a mad killer just while entering a shop or crossing the street. Since I've seen the film 'Targets' by Peter Bogdanovich I always look on top of gas tanks, skyscrapers and clocktowers so not to give a sniper a good chance to blow my head off. And I don't go to drive-in cinemas. Anyway: I handed you URL over to a very cynic german satiric magazine - one of more or less splatter-type. They make weird stories about bloodsheds and massacres - but are sometimes too unrealistic. Your page - maybe - might help them to come back to reality. We will see. Or maybe a piano may fall on our head.

I'm a little imbalanced after reading your stuff. I drive home now. Reading a good book. Maybe 'Frankenstein' from Mary Shelley.

Good Night from Peter of Germany

I, like many other people share an interest in serial killers. I would like to study criminology in later years. Many of you are treating this seriously and realizing the trauma all of the killers victims went through. Some of you think it is humorous. I think you just sick. And for those of you who think of these killers as 'heroes' 'mentors' or 'idols', I suggest you find yourself some help before you too become involved in this crap. If you want to kill and torture many INNOCENT people just to earn yourself some glory because your not talented enough to possess any other trades, fine. But the percentage of people who don't give-a-shit outways the percentage of people who care.......Think about it...

I don't care what your purpose was in making these pages. Reading the email from the idiots who oppose it in the "join the body count" area amused me. It's obvious you put a lot of work into them and I felt the need to congratulate you. I'm obsessed with blood, death, and serial killers and finding your page made me even more so.
There is no such expression as "lighten up" in the eyes of the family of a victim of a violent crime you piece of shit. If you care to express your views elsewhere, you are more than welcome to in other areas of the web . For example, there is a page I have discovered called "Web Is Mostly Shit", where I am sure you will be more than welcomed.

In the meantime, I would appreciate if you kept your "amusing" comments to your FUCKING self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I often wonder if the line between fantasy and reality has been diminished to the point where people, like yourself, have lost touch with the fact that living beings have a right to exist without the pain and anguish of sick MTF'S being bestowed upon them. If you find my comments amusing, then you're right in line "pal"!

For the record: I am an advocate of freedom of expression on the "net" and an avid supporter of free speech. This, in turn, gives ME the freedom to express my opinions as to the ignorant(and often misguided or misinformed) individuals who constantly cloud the vision of others trying to obtain important information, data, or facts pertaining to certain crimes to possibly aide society in apprehending these individuals who commit senseless acts of violence toward innocent individuals.

Hardy-fucking har!

PS If any of the "big words" are giving you any trouble...

... check Webster's feeb!

I live in Santa Maria California,...26 miles from Tex Watson's Home The California Men's Colony in San Luis Obispo. .. I have taken tours of it and it's pretty freaky. The Atascadero State Hospital is 40 miles away from my house... I hear some horror stories about it too...I think Tex Does not Get out for another 10 years.....the Victims right crowd will make sure of that...But If you want to hear him preach in the Prison Chapel you can go for services....9:30 A.M. every Sunday... I never been there ...but a Friend of mine says it's pretty interesting hearing a lot of Convicts Talking about God's Good Graces and how your sins are forgiven.....they say it's pretty strange to see a bunch of big men with tattoos singing Gospel music...Oh Well this is what makes America Great....Eh...Redemption.. or do you think thei'r Redemption is just an Illusion to get out of the Cell....I think the latter is the most probable situation....

This page is so tasteless it makes me sick. I remember reading it before and you referred to Paul Bernardo as 'horny'. Please keep in mind that for some people studying serial killers isn't all Hollywood and fun. It is a job, and a gruesome one at that. When I look at crime scene photos of a child who has been raped and cannibalized or woman who has been sexually tortured and dissected, the last thing that I would call the killer would be 'horny'. You seem to glorify serial killers and act as though they are all in competition to see who can kill the most people. You are feeding their egos and giving them all the publicity they want. I hope you're happy to be satisfying them, I suppose you're lucky that you don't have to satisfy them the same way that their victims did, by dying in pain.

I was hoping to find more in-depth information on Randy Kraft. I thought I was shock-proof, but a guy who went after MARINES? Islamic Jihad had nothing on this guy. They needed explosives!

THERE. MY 556TH CAT I'VE KILLED THIS YEAR. I HATE FUCKING CATS. SATANIC LITTLE SHITS! ANYWAY, IS IT NATURAL TO BE SITTING IN A ROOM SURFING THE NET WITH HUNDREDS OF CATS HEADS STUCK ON YOUR WALL? FUCK KNOWS, FUCK CARES, AND FUCK DOES NOT LISTEN. EVEN THOUGH THAT I AM A CAT LOVER- I LOVE TO FUCKING RIP THEIR HEADS OFF.

I am not a fan but am interested in the subject of killings. I have read the book describing the Zodiac killings and after reading your serial killers archive I was deeply disappointed. You state that he 'threatened' to blow up a school bus. In the book it shows plans found and how he did it, YES he did. He blew up a bus killing the people on it. The bomb was set up to detect the time that the sun was not shining on it while the bus went over it and then exploded.

hey....this web page was really cool....and informative....That is true about these Cults... they are people who do not know what reality is anymore.....I do not favor the Death penalty... only in extreme cases such as Genocide....or Torturous Death...Actually I believe we can do without the Death Penalty....but man....these Serial Killers really want me to Reconsider....They are some sick puppies....

I hope you keep this updated.....I want more info on these Killers...

A YOUNG BRIGHT STUDENT OF A MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY WHO WAS ONLY 25YRS OLD WAS BRAINWASHED BY A GROWING CULT IN INDIA. HE WAS STUDYING FOR HIS CA EXAMS AND WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING A JOB IN ORDER TO SUPPORT HIS WIDOWED MOTHER. BECAUSE OF THE RELIGIOUS FAMILY VALUES HE WAS PRAYING TO GOD TO MAKE HIM STRONG (AS WE ALL DO) SO HE CAN DO HIS DUTIES TOWARDS HIS RESPONSIBILITY , BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH WRONG CULT WHO TOTALLY BRAINWASHED AND MENTALLY RETARDED HIM TO LEAVE HIS HOME AND SERVE A SELF PROCLAIMED GOD SANT ASHA RAM.

HE WAS GIVEN SWEET TALKS ABOUT SPIRITUALISM FOR SOMETIME AND THEN WAS BRAINWASHED OF HIS MEMORY AND INTERESTS FOR LIFE AND HIS SUBCONSCIOUS MIND WAS PUT INTO BELIEVING ONE INDIVIDUAL AS GOD AND SERVE HIS NEEDS. NOW HIS MIND HAS BEEN PROGRAMMED TO WORK FOR THE CULT AND RECRUIT MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE TO MAKE ASHA RAM AS A LORD FOR THEM. HE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR THE CULT, AND CULT LEADER ASHA RAM AND HIS SON NARAYAN SWAMI ARE MINTING MONEY AND RUINING INNOCENT INDIAN FAMILIES.

HINDU RELIGION DOESN'T TEACHES YOU TO LIES, BETRAY, AND TO PUT YOUR FAMILY INTO TROUBLE & DEVASTATED SITUATION INSTEAD HINDU CULTURE TEACHES YOU TO MAKE PARENTS PROUD OF YOU BY DOING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING OTHER PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY TO GROW. TACTIC THIS CULT IS USING IS BY MARKETING THEMSELVES THROUGH AUDIO CASSETTES VIDEO CASSETTES SEMINARS LECTURES WITH THEIR ILLEGAL FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND UNACCOUNTED DONATIONS FROM INDIA & OVERSEAS. THEY INVITE YOU FIRST POLITELY TO JOIN THE FUNCTIONS AND THEN IF THEY SEE YOU HAVE MONEY THEN THEY PUT PRESSURE ON YOU TO DONATE MONEY FOR NEEDY PEOPLE (WHICH EVENTUALLY GOES TO CULT LEADER), THEN BY READING BOOKS, AND AUDIO'S OF CULT YOU ARE IN THE SPIRIT OF SERVING CULT IN THE NAME OF GOD, BUT ONCE YOU ARE IN IT THEN THEY START USING YOU FOR THEIR PERSONNEL ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE ORDERED BY CULT. ALL THESE SAME TACTICS WERE USED BY KORESH IN TX, AND RAJNEESH IN OREGON. AND LOOK AT THE RESULTS NOT TO MENTION CHANDRA SWAMY.

ASHA RAM'S CULT WAS SAYING WE ARE NOT HOLDING AJAY SHARMA HERE, BUT IN HIS MIND SO MUCH OF THE CULT'S MATERIAL HAS BEEN FILLED THAT HE CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE INSTEAD OF THIS SELF CLAIMED GOD. HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM HIM AS A PRISONER HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN THREATENED TO GET SUED IF THEY TRY TO TAKE HIM AWAY FROM CULT ACTIVITIES. BUT WHEN SOMEONE OUTSIDE APPROACHES ASHA RAM'S CULT TO TALK TO AJAY SHARMA THEY HIDE HIM AWAY IN THEIR SO MANY ASHRAMS IN INDIA. HIS FAMILY IS NEVER PUT IN TOUCH WITH HIM, INSTEAD THEY HAVE BEEN THREATENED USING FOUL LANGUAGE AND SHOWING THE POWER ASHA RAM HAS OVER MILLION OF INNOCENT HARD WORKING PEOPLE. BECAUSE OF SO MUCH POWER OF ASHA RAM IN INDIA HIS FAMILY IS HELPLESS DEVASTATED BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO GET HELP FROM ANYONE. WE ARE WRITING YOU THIS APPEAL WITH VERY DESPERATE HEART TO SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE WHICH IS GETTING RUINED IN FRONT OF SO MANY POWERFUL PEOPLE, WHO ARE JUST GIVING A SYMPATHY AND NOT DOING AN ACTION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THEIR KID OR RELATIVE.

SINCE AJAY HAS BEEN IN THE ASHRAM HIS PHYSICAL HEALTH HAS BEEN AFFECTED, OF COURSE MENTALLY HE IS SICK FOR WHICH HE MIGHT NEED A GOOD DEPROGRAMMER FOR LONG TERM. POOR KID HAS BEEN MADE TO THINK THAT HE IS HAPPY AND SERVING GOD. HE HAS FOOLED BY ASHA RAM THAT YOU ARE SERVING GOD & YOUR FAMILY BY SERVING ME. ASHA RAM IS A LEADER LIVES IN SUCH BIG HOUSES AND HE JUST GOES AWAY TO SILENT PLACES INSTEAD PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR HIM ARE WORKING SO MANY HOURS AND DON'T EVEN GET PROPER FOOD. INSIDE THE ASHRAM. SADAK HAS BEEN BRAINWASHED AGAINST THE FAMILY AND OUTSIDE WORLD. SADAK IS A VICTIM BY A ANOTHER SADAK. HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN CRYING FOR HIM, INSTEAD ASHA RAM PEOPLE TOLD IN THE BEGINNING THAT AJAY IS IN THE ASHRAM WITH PERMISSION FROM FAMILY. ASHA RAM CHARGES LAKHS OF RUPEES FOR HOURS OF SPEECH IN THE NAME OF ASHRAM AND HIS SPEECH., BUT NO ONE KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY HE JUST TAKES AWAY AS GIFTS AND HIDE THEM WITH HIS POLITICIANS FRIENDS AND OVERSEAS FOLLOWERS.

PLEASE SAVE A RELIGIOUS HARD WORKING FAMILY BY PUTTING PRESSURE ON ASHA RAM TO LEAVE AJAY SHARMA ALONE. WE ARE UNABLE TO FIGHT AGAINST HIM AS YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF HIS FINANCIAL POWER , INFLUENCE OVER GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, AND THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS IMAGE . IF AJAY WAS NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS CULT HE MIGHT HAVE FINISHED HIS CA AND WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A JOB AND WOULD HAVE STRUGGLE FOR LIFE INSTEAD OF THINKING OF SUICIDAL ATTEMPTS AND GET BEAT UP AND TORTURED BY CULT OF ASHA RAM AND PUT HIS FAMILY TO THIS DISASTROUS SITUATION IN LIFE, THAT THEIR SON IS IN HANDS OF A CULT WHO ARE USING HIM AS A TOY AND GET THREATENED AND LIVE A LIFE OF HELPLESS VICTIM IN THE NAME OF GOD FROM A CREATURE OF GOD.


While reading John 8:24, I heard a quiet, powerful voice say, "I am that I am, now do you understand why the world's not interested in the truth?" this was in 1970.

Before going to sleep, one spring night in 1971, I heard a voice that sounded like a waterfall, shouting, "Strong is the Lord God who judges Babylon."

In the summer of 1972 I heard the waterfall voice say, "Hear o Israel hear, this one shall be free."

Late spring of 1973 found me witnessing a quiet, powerful voice say, "You alone have I seen righteous in your generation."

In the summer of 1992, I received a vision of heat and light at the city park in our town, and I heard the still small voice say, "It is finished," which is what Christ said at the Cross (John 19:30)

During the summer of 1993, after placing olive oil on my head in the configuration of a menorah (seven branched candlestick of orthodox Jewish faith, which represents the Seven Spirits of God), I heard the following words:

I have strengthened you on the bed of languishing, yet you are reluctant to praise me; I have given you visions and dreams, and yet you are slow to believe; I have prospered you, yet you rob me continually; I have spoken to you with the still, small voice and the voice of many waters, yet you have hardened your hearts; I have given you a pastor who faithfully brings forth my word, yet you speak against him, behind his back, thinking that I cannot hear you ; I have taken you to the banquet halls where my banner over you was love, yet you have hated and despised me; I have plucked some of you from the very fires, yet you do not return to thank me. The time approaches, in fact it is here, when sore punishment will strike those who have trodden my Son underfoot. Some of you are troubled by what your spiritual eyes have already seen. Strengthen what is ready to die, for I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and I will have compassion on whom I choose to have compassion.

On may 28, 1995, while praying in tongues at Foodtown Plus on South Main Street, Bowling Green, Ohio, I heard a quiet presence say, with much indignation, "Put an end to the abortions, or I will put an end to your country."

On July 15, 1995, again while praying in tongues, I heard a quiet voice say, "I am feeding you manna from heaven.......eat and be satisfied .......continue praising my Son Jesus's name.......for I inhabit the praises of my people.......soon the wicked will be punished.......those who trust in me will be pleased.......those who fight against me will be ashamed."

On September 8, 1995, again praying in tongues, I received the following interpretation: "I am taking the cup of astonishment out of your hands.......I will compel your enemies, persecutors and oppressors to drink it instead.......they will drink and swallow down, and be as though they were not."

ALSO, why does it happen that no Scriptures have come to light that corroborate what Christ said in John 7:37-39?


Love your web pages. I've actually used it in a class I teach at Auburn University (Serial and Mass Murder- a very popular class to say the least). I am also writing a book on mass murder and I intend to cite your web page in the bibliography (if you have any objections to this please let me know). The book is probably about a year or so away from publication (I'm negotiating with publishers right now). Look forward to hearing from you.

I was very "happy" to see Jeff Lundgren on your list of killer cults. I say happy in quotes because...well how happy can you be with a sick individual like him. I was a police officer with Lakeland college (Kirtlands, main backup units) at the time and was there when the Avery family bodies were found. It was indeed a very disturbing moment in my life, but I am proud to say that I played a part in bringing this man to justice where he belongs.

I am not a sick person, but I don't know about you . Have you ever thought of stabbing someone to death? I would if they had done something to fucken hurt me. If they were innocent there would be no point, right? All murderers should be killed if they are caught, not given cable TV and an easy life. I can't even afford cable and the money I earn is going to comfort those sick bastards.

I must say that it is extremely rare to find a web page that is so informative and attention-grabbing as yours. I can honestly say that if there were half as many pages like yours out there on the web, there would be more people such as myself who would certainly spend more time net-surfing and checking out what are the new features presented over the Internet.

One suggestions that I would like to offer you in order for you to further improve your fantastic web site is that of the addition of an image gallery. I am aware that you currently possess a page in which exhibits various digitally constructed images containing mockingly grotesque and devilishly humorous portrayals of serial murderers, but I was thinking of something more along the lines of an image gallery that strictly deals with presenting images of mutilation and torture (products of the ravenous exploits of serial killers). I am uploading an example to you of what I have in mind. It is an image of the cannibal killer, Ed Gein's last known victim, Bernice Worden. You may or may not already possess this image within you collection, but if not I hope you enjoy it and take my proposal into consideration.

Disneyland is no place for a psycho killer. Why not go find a nice deep hole in the ground like any other plight on this earth. See ya on the dark side.

You are very mighty but you have many flaws in the way that you do things. I could help you. Let me be a part of your family and I will serve you well. I could destroy so many of the things that lurk inside of that evil mind of yours. I think that you should be free. The only thing that you did wrong was that you were caught in the process of the greatest conspiracy of murders I've ever seen or heard of in my entire life. I think above all that you are the greatest of all brainwashers that the world has ever seen.

I was wondering about psychopaths. Why they are the way they are and how can we help them?

What's going on with Charles Manson these days? What is the chance of a new TV interview? Is there any new insight on any serial killers presently at large in the U.S.? There are never any intelligent murderers around my neighborhood. All that we get are rappers.

Came across your Crime Archives while researching child homicide cases. The tone of your descriptions ("tanked up", "smoked", "They tried it, they liked it, they did it again") is offensive in the extreme. I believe there is a point to knowing about these cases (otherwise I wouldn't be doing this research) but to trivialize them into "amusing information" is to deny the tragedy for the victims and their families.

I think the greatest serial killer of all time was Ted Bundy. one sick bastard. the chair was too good for him. it should have put other people off but it didn't . There will be another.

I thought you might like to know that I was working on a book partly about how the CIA creates serial killers, Psychic Dictatorship in the U.S.A., when Glen Rogers, the serial killer, broke into the adjoining apartment and attempted to burn my building down. I live in L.A., population 10 million.

I do not know if you are a religious person or a Christian but I am going to write this as if you were. The crimes against humanity Jeffrey Dahmer committed reflected a sick man. it is true that it was nothing short of grotesque, but to read something along the lines of God cutting up his flesh is wrong. I am not sure if you know anything about the man's conversion to Christianity. Some have argued that it was a sad joke, others have blown it off but those of us in the Church of Christ believe him to be our brother. His sins have been forgiven This is what makes God Sovereign and man sinful. Wisdom is something that is not always found in expressions of judgment. Looking at it as a human, Jeffrey Dahmer should burn forever! Looking at it as a Christian, so should the rest of the world. Nothing qualifies me to judge the man. His death brought joy to the families he harmed. His death also brought joy to many self-righteous religious people who fail to try to see things the way God would. Think about it.

I've been trying to find out for awhile what happened to the Manson Family children. They should be approaching thirty by now. Are they deadheads or investment bankers or locked up?

RICHARD RAMIREZ IS NOTHING COMPARED TO TED BUNDY BUT BOTH OF THEM ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO ME

We are from Mounds, Oklahoma. Home of hate. You are a god like figure to us. Please send us additional information over the net on how we can become more like you.

This site has nothing to do with Armageddon. Do you really believes that the world will end soon? How will it happen? Who will leads us?

Hey baby. You can't catch me, can you? I want to kill off the whole world so I can be one with God. That's right, you heard what I said. To be one with you. Right now, as I am typing, fourteen mutilated bodies sit prettily in my closet. One of them is my bitch mother. Adios padre.

This is the worst page on the Internet that I have ever seen. The writers of this page and others linked to it have shown some extremely poor taste. You are probably just a bunch of strange and lonely guys who seem to derive pleasure from the horrible acts of other strange and lonely guys. If I were you I would feel shameful of my sorry ass.

I WANT TO ADOPT ONE OF DAVID KORESH'S CHILDREN WERE CAN I FIND OUT MORE?

This is a very interesting site. Why not attach something like this: "Serial killers are scum and that anyone who thinks a person's life is worth the price of a couple of seconds of their own feeble ejaculation is really weak."

I am a police officer in Texas. There is a guy named Bill Wynne that runs a home page for his BBS that has a link to this page. Bill has recently been arrested for raping three young girls. This man is a sicko. Just thought you would like to know. You can search for his name and it will come up.

I think Charles Manson is cool. Those people deserved to die. Some here at school deserve to die too. Get Charles and the gang to come and kill our president first, then the faculty and staff. After we can come to my place so we can get butt naked and he can suck my titties and I can lick the cum from around the edges of his penis. ummmm, ahhh, ohhh yeah. Now fuck me harder and harder and harder, that's how I like it. Remember, I am a student at vcu, and my e-mail address is above. Please, turn me in before I kill myself.


Howdy, I have a special interest in Ricky Chase because I went to Mira Loma High School in Sacramento and knew Rick personally. The first time I smoked a 'pot cigarette' he tickled me. I thought he was fairly normal then, but after high school he seemed to lose it. I think it was due to the fact that in high school he was fairly popular, but after, he was a nobody.

The best murderer ever (and still the coolest) was, without a doubt, Jack the Ripper. Although the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run and the Black Dahlia weren't bad, either.

Those who follow the steps and the ways of men proven to be mad are bound not for glory, but for the same doom as their idols. Dwelling on the Manson family and their brutal killings many years after their occurrence can only be an act of obsessive fantasy. Are you really prepared to see the mind of a homicidal maniac from the inside out? Those who try to discer