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From: "Wayne Leng"
Subject: Murder suspect travelled to B.C.
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 23:06:30

Murder suspect travelled to B.C.
RCMP want to compare Wash. man's DNA with DNA found on slain local prostitutes

Salim Jiwa and John Colebourn The Province

Sunday, December 02, 2001

AUBURN, Wash. -- The man suspected of being the Green River Killer travelled repeatedly to B.C., both by truck and motorhome, his neighbours have told The Province.

Gary Leon Ridgway -- arrested Friday in connection with the deaths of four women on the list of victims of the Green River serial killer -- also travelled to Oregon, they said.

Reports of his Canadian connection have a joint RCMP-Vancouver police task force eager to determine if the arrest will shed light on 45 women missing from the Downtown Eastside. Talks are expected between Canadian and U.S. investigators shortly.

Although U.S. police have been careful not to refer to Ridgway as the Green River Killer, interest is focused on the murders of more than 40 women, most of them prostitutes, found in or near Seattle's Green River between 1982 and '84.

Among the victims was Vancouver's Yvonne Antosh, who disappeared from a sex stroll near the Seattle airport in May 1983. Shortly after the Seattle murders stopped in '84, women began to go missing in Vancouver. No bodies have been found.

A senior RCMP officer, who asked not to be named, said that while no DNA is available from most of the missing B.C. women, samples of Ridgway's could be compared to DNA recovered from three bodies found near Aggassiz in 1995.

The bodies are those of Tracy Olajide, Tammy Lee Pipe and Victoria Younker. All were involved in drugs and the sex trade.

Meantime, news of Ridgway's arrest has spooked his neighbours in the heavily wooded area of the Seattle suburb of Auburn near Geneva Lake -- not far from where his suspected victims were found.

Kirstin Colts, a neighbour of Ridgway and his wife Judith, said she believed he had made several trips to B.C.: "The neighbours were all gathered around when they heard he was a suspect and they were talking about how he travelled a lot to B.C. and Oregon. He used the motorhome to go to B.C."

The vehicle was still behind police crime-scene tapes yesterday.

Ridgway had a brush with a Seattle policewoman posing as a hooker in 1984 but was released. He was, however, never taken off the suspect list and new DNA techniques finally helped police link him to three of the four murders he's suspected of. His DNA sample was obtained in the early '80s.

Ridgway's arrest left Vancouver prostitutes' advocate Jamie Lee Hamilton hoping police distribute his photo locally -- and worried about the potential for copycat killings.

Ridgway was ordered held without bail in King County jail and is expected to be charged this week. He has been linked to the deaths of three women found in the Green River in 1982 and one found in the woods in '83.

From: "RKM"
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:38:33 -0500 (EST)
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com
Subject: The "Babysitter"

I was wondering if you had any further updates on the Babysitter (also known as the Oakland County child killer). I was 10 years old at the time and living in lower Oakland county Michigan, and remember the fear my parents had of me just going outside.

The last update you had was about a guy that died in a auto accident back in 1981 and that the police were going to exhume his body in 1999 to match his DNA against a hair found on one of the bodies. What became of that test? I also came across a article online about a car that was found in a junkyard that the police were running tests on (although I have not been able to find it since).

Thanks in advance


From: "Roger Stacy"
Subject: Errors on site
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:39:01 -0800
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


Just wanted to point out a few errors on your site about the Reverend Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple. First there were 913 deaths at the Jonestown site. There was only one more suicide in March 1979. The murders of Linda Amos and her three children occurred in Georgetown, Guyana on the same day as the massacre in Jonestown, in fact, at the same time... Linda Myrtle is still alive, her sister Daphne and Al and Jeannie Mills were murdered in March 1980.


Roger Stacy

Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:16:25 EST
Subject: Barry Loukaitis
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

You had some really good info on Barry Loukaitis & John Petrich, a psychiatrist for the defense on the Web. Can I ask where you got hold of this part or where I might seek to get it?


Subject: vocabulary
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:04:40 EST
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Well, my name is Raven. Me and my friend Bil were thinking that your use of vocabulary is excellent and we even put some of your words together in a fetching and provocative ways like when you used rostitute instead of prostitute that was pure genius. We laughed like natives. Of course we used your vocabulary in sentences like:

I was a part-time deeply psychotic retard and rostitute (rastafarian prostitute) back in the day.

We've enyoyed moments of fun on your site. Keep up the good work Dear Fiend ...oops Friend.

Raven and Bil

ps Of course we respect human rights and that kind of thing...but if I was a mass murderer I'd be Mickey and Mallory.

Subject: I saw Nickolay Soltys
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:22:15 -0800
From: "Joanne"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

...at Davis Hospital in Sacramento this morning while on my Paramedic internship. We brought a guy into the ambulance emergency entrance where we saw some dude dressed in orange with a netted mask over his head sitting in a corner surrounded by 10 cops. We joked with the Head Nurse about "So what's with the Silence of the Lambs guy over there?"...she took us around the side and told us it was this freak. The guy looks like a tiny weasel. Quiet and harmless like the papers said and looks so much younger in person. Creepy and cold though. Apparently the piece of crap tried to jump out a second story window at the Jail and broke his foot. It's ridiculous that our system has to spend money and time dealing with this piece of shit...I also wonder who's gonna get the doctor bill too.


Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:59:03 -0500

From: "Sean Slaughter"

To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


Subject: snowtown
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:51:05 +1000
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


it's not really all that new, you may already know, but James Vlassakis is going to testify against Bunting, Wagner and Haydon in the Snowtown trial.


Subject: nice site, pitty about the WM3 !
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:18:37 +1000
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

G' day, as much as i enjoyed your web site and the work you have put into it i feel that your piece on the West Memphis 3 was unfair, i guess neither of us trully know what happened that night but I still feel that after all the interesting stuff i saw that this was just a tad unfair. however different strokes for different folks, nice work hope to see more.

Subject: Manson Facts
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 22:40:07 -0500
From: "Mrs. Manson"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Manson family member Tex Watson also beat Voyteck Fryowski 13 times over the head with the butt of his pistol.

Thought you might like to know that. :)

Subject: I saw your site and have a question
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:30:31 -0800
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


You have a very interesting site. I found it interesting that almost all of the cannibals were men, what about the women? I fantasize about being eaten alive by an attractive woman or women. I'd love to read about some.

Mark Bryan

Subject: killing
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:33:12 -0700
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

hey there! love the sight but have you ever heard of Yves "Apache" Trudeau? he is a Hells Angel, now under the protection of the Canadian government due to his turning in his biker cronies. In return for ratting his buddies out he recieved immunity for some 43 murders he committed, mostly for revenge and / or money. A pretty prolific killer I would say.

thanks for the time

Subject: speck tapes
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:29:44 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

hiya, i am wondering if there is any chance of getting a hold of these tapes. i have a few interesting items in my video collection and we could possibly trade or i would give you cash outright.

Subject: Dear Elvision...
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:25:24 +0100
From: maria
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I visited your site when I was surfing the net looking for some information on George Jo Hennard. It's very complete and I pretty like it, but I disagree in one aspect: do you really consider McVeigh a mass murderer? Well, he killed lots of people, but that's not exactly the point, is it? I mean, he's a terrorist, he planned the attack and he did it for political reasons. He has nothing to do with those Amok killers or Bersekers. He was a paramilitary enthusiast, but he had support, it's not the typical lone murderer or spree killer. Maybe it's not very important, I know, but it's just I felt he had nothing to do with the rest of them, and it could be more accurate. Anyway, it's a very interesting url.

Just one question: don't people treat you like a weirdo when they know you are interested in these kind of things? They think it's impossible to be interested in the dark side of human beings without being a total freak.

Well, that's all.

(I live in Barcelona, Spain)

Subject: Speck Video
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:49:17 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

"The God of greed pulled the clips from our page. If you want to see the clips contact Michael Harvey and Bill Kurtis and ask them. Seems to me outrageous that they should be claiming any copyright ownership to a video of a mass murderer smuggled out of jail. I doubt Speck gave them permission to air the tapes on television."

I enjoyed reading your article of Richard Speck and would be interested in obtaining a copy of the videos, as referenced in the clipping I have copied and pasted above from your site.

Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:39:55 -0400
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I was hoping that you could send me any information you have regarding Hannibal "the cannibal" Lecter. I have been unsuccessful finding information on the web about him and who he really was. I would appreciate any information that you can send to me.

Subject: Thank's....
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:45:05 +0200
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I would just like to thank you for a great site!!!! It's not easy to find pages like this here in Norway, so If you have other ideas of pages or books I should read could you send me a e-mail???

Thank's again from Kristin Olafsen from Norway :)

Subject: hello
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:30:08 +0200
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


i have only recently re-discovered you website @ mayhem.net (i had found it several years ago and lost the link).

just wanted to tell you i think it's still a very cool site, both in terms of content and web-design. i especially like all the doctored images.

are you also responsible for subculture.com?



Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:34:58 -0700
From: "Victor Basil"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

here is something you guys might find interesting, Theres a guy named David Beaver who lives in Wheeling West Virginia who uses mind control to kill people. He is very methodical and sadistic and this is very true. Hes already killed at least two peole that I know of, but there is no proof. He uses his mind as a weapon of destruction. He is just a psychic with a headful of bad wiring. Some say he is a visionary serial killer. How do you stop a psychic killer? Nobody seems to know...He looks like a great addition to you site though.


Subject: Richard Ramirez
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 12:27:50 EDT
From: AtheistDiary
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I have been wanting to give an interview with Richard Ramirez for a serial killer web site I am putting together. Do you know of any information that would be helping in finding out how and where I can get a personal interview with Ramirez?

Thanks again.

Bryce Daniel Klepinger

Subject: Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 05:21:20 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I would like you to add my e-mail to your comment page as I feel there may be some people out here who knew or interviewed or professionaly treated or observed Chicago's (Des Plains) serial killer John Wayne Gacy. I have been attempting to write a book about him and would like to hear about people's real experiences and knowledge of Gacy's crimes..including rumors he killed his first victim by age 15!

Many claim to have known or interviewd Gacy but I am among the few who actually got him to talk! There's a whole lot the public/police never knew!

Ed from Bremerton,Wa. I encourage people to e-mail me at: trems128@aol.com

Wicca curios-know nothing on that subject..+ FBI profiling.

Subject: Barry Niedermier
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 16:37:13 -0700
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I was strolling thru your page "lustmord 2000" and I couldn't believe that I saw someone that I knew! Barry Niedermier bought my 'services' in 96. I used to escort and use dope. I went to his apartment around main and 14th ave. in Vancouver. He wasn't strange at all. He wanted to hug me while he smoked crack. Then blow the smoke on my back. Weird I know. He was nice to me during the time I was there. I can't believe that he's on mayhem.net. I used to see him drive around alot (The strolls). Really creepy. I'm glad I'm out of that scene. Don't think that I'm not being truthful. It's the god's honest truth.


Subject: Just a question...
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:29:10 -0400
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I'm working on a research paper for a college english class on the philosophy behind the killings of Jeffrey Dahmer. In order to include your website as one of my sources, I need to know when you last updated your page. If you wouldn't care to send me that date, it would be much appreciated.

Thank you!

Subject: Unusual Story
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 13:13:41 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Just thought I would share an unusual story with you. This one kind of takes a personal place with me because it unfolded accross the street from me. I'm not sure how much detail you like to be sent to you so I will give you the basics. If you need more, feel free to e-mail me back and I will tell you what I know:

Terry Lee Hankins
Mansfield TX

Basically, the guy was thrown in jail for beating the crap out of his girlfriend. His ex-wife, who lived accross the street from me, helped generate the money to bail him out of jail. They were divorced because she, Tammy Hankins, had discovered that Terry had raped his half sister in the past, got her pregnant, etc.. Anyway, she bails him out, he begins staying at her house along with her two children. Weeks later, when Tammy and her two kids were being missed, a neighbor went over to their house to check on them. She found Tammy and the kids all dead with gunshot wounds to the head.

I couldn't believe it. My soon to be wife and I just sat out on our front porch watching things unfold right there in front of us. The following morning, the police were tipped to his where-abouts, which lead to a four or five hour stand off. He was at a girlfriends apartment.

Once in custody, he admitted to killing his father and his half sister (the one he knocked up), almost a year prior. He told the police where they could find the bodies, the police went to the locations and sure enough.....at his dad's mobile home, still sitting in his lounger, was his badly decomposed father. Terry had been going back there for almost a year, putting up air fresheners, mowing the lawn and paying the rent so no one would grow suspicious. They found his half sister in a plastic storage container, in a junked out, blocked up car, outside a autoshop/storage company.

Anyway, this was a slap in the face by reallity for me, that freaks like that do exist in the world and are walking among us. To think this sick-o was right out in front of my house.

This all took place a day or two before the victims of Adam Moss were discovered. It was publicized in Arlington, Fort Worth, and Dallas as well as Mansfield.


Subject: Just A Few Questions
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 00:17:51 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

To Whom It May Concern,

I first want to say that if this letter needs to be directed towards some other address, please tell me and forgive me for waisting your time.

I am a very curious person by nature and so my facination with serial minds speaks for it'self. I am also an aspiring writer working on my first novel. Yes it is about a serial killer but it doesn't portray them to be monsters. Infact, my novel is intended to open the minds of those who fear these human beings. I wanted to write just a little about who I am and what I am so as not to scare off anyone willing to talk to me.

My first question is, how do I go about getting the addresses of deathrow inmates so that I may become better aquainted with them. I am interested in two mostly. Richard Ramirez and Charles Manson. I know that Mr. Manson is no longer at San Quentin. I would just like to know if it is possible for me to write to these individuals.

The last thing is, is there a way for me to communicate with anyone on deathrow via the internet or e-mail? If you could please answer these questions or direct me towards someone who can, I would greatly appreciate it!

Thank you for your time!!

Subject: Serial Killers DateSat, 29 Sep 2001 13:32:51 EDT To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I would like to commend you on your great webpage, I have been looking all around for a page of such caliber and I was astounded when I found yours.

Let me introduce myself, my name is Lucy I am 19 years old and go to John Jay College of Criminal Justice in NYC, and am majoring in Forensic Science. There is a project I must do, build a webpage for my Forensic Psychology/ Deviant Behavior class which will give me a mid term grade, and no I am not asking for any of your pictures, or hard work, I am just asking for the roll over code in which the gunshots are heard, if you can supply this to me I will be indebted to you

Again thanks again for constructing such a wonderful page

~Evil Lucy
Guitarz and Destruction: Vulgaras

Leave your morals at home!

Subject: Edwin Kaprat
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:05:24 -0400
From: Laura Baker
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I went to high school with him! How strange some one else actually mentioned him on your page!

I have some scary stories about events before he moved to Florida.

Subject: 1980 weekie-watchee (Florida) murders
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:53:49 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


I am researching the "Weekie-Watchee murders" from the late 1970s to 1981. Committed by father and son Billy Ray Mansfield - they were convicted of 10 rape-murders ... more bodies were not found,even though more murders were committed, like the one on Melinda Harder(Stewart) from St. Petersburg,Florida...they (father and son) were also convicted on various rape-murders they committed in California, where they are believed to be in prison. Up for parole/release this year.

Could you, WOULD you, please, help me get more (all) information about Billy Ray Mansfield and his father (same name) and about their activities,as well as whereabouts?

Are you aware that Charles Manson (with "Squiggie" Fromme) has a webpage named "ATWA" through which he can/tries to influence impressionable people?

I appreciate any help you give with the Mansfield murders.

Thank you!

Subject: no crime poetry for some body
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:58:59 +0200
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


Sobre el cielo de Londres

hoy no hay Mary Poppins

y luce una luna normal

de lo mas Elemental

Bajo la sombra del Big Beng

bajo la sombra del Big Bang

tras una sombra en Hyde Park

!una sombra!. . .Scotland Yard!

Bajo la sombra de un drunk

tras la sombra de una punk

!Jack se ha vuelto a escapar!

!en asombro!. . . Scotland Yard!

ScotlandYard concentrado

estudiando las estrellas

porque Jack no deja huellas

Quien demonios sera Jack?

No hay crimen perfecto

que no delate el tiempo

si ya se sabe , por cierto

Quien era el demonio de Jack!

En el nombre de Satan

de nombre J. maybrick

venas de puro arsenico

demonio como patetico

Jack nos dejo su diario

escrito de propia mano

legando todos sus fueros

a bien de la humanidad .


Maybe im so estupit, but i write this estupit poetry, that no crime is perfectly, and the biggest crime could ever to leave proof,but i cant translate without to lost its harmony

i will glad somebody read it

and answered me

Subject: Vancouver - How the police investigation was flawed, Too few officers, police infighting
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 06:40:49 -0700
From: "Wayne"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

How the police investigation was flawed, Too few officers, police infighting and lack of experience undermined first probe into disappearances

The Vancouver Sun Sat 22 Sep 2001

Lindsay Kines, Kim Bolan and Lori Culbert

The original Vancouver city police investigation of missing women on the Downtown Eastside was assigned to inexperienced and overworked officers without the time or resources to do a thorough job, The Vancouver Sun has learned.

In some cases, the officers distrusted one another, withheld information from the rest of the team, or lacked the proper training to handle such a complex case.

The Sun has also learned that there were data entry problems with the computer system that was used to manage information about the case.

The result was a deficient investigation into what may be the largest serial murder case in the city's history.

And at least one officer familiar with the case has said the investigation was so rife with problems that the case should be the subject of a public inquiry.

The investigation goes back to the summer of 1998, when Vancouver police assigned a second officer to its missing-persons section to review a sharp increase in the number of missing women.

Then, in 1999, the department formed the Missing Women Review Team amid mounting public pressure over the disappearances, and rising fear that a serial killer was stalking Vancouver prostitutes.

Mayor Philip Owen and senior police officers assured the media at the time that the department was doing everything it could to solve the case. The city and province offered a $100,000 reward, brought John Walsh from television's America's Most Wanted to town to release a poster of all 31 women and, at one point, police told the media that nine people were at work on the file.

"The women's families and friends, and the entire Downtown Eastside community need to know what has happened," Owen said in a July 1999, press release. "We're doing everything we can to get answers."

But The Sun's two-month investigation has found the police response left much to be desired.

Based on interviews with more than a dozen active and retired police officers, as well as internal police documents obtained by the newspaper, The Sun has determined that the Vancouver police either lacked the resources to investigate the disappearances properly or resisted shifting them to a difficult case where they had no bodies, no crime scenes, no forensic evidence, and too many possible suspects.

Among The Sun's findings:

*Although Vancouver police told the media and the public they had up to nine people working on the file, many of those officers were either assigned part-time or were working two jobs at once -- meaning the actual number of officers on the case at any one time was far less than reported.

*The sergeant in charge of the investigation was essentially doing the work of two or even three people -- supervising an on-call homicide team of eight officers, overseeing the coroner's liaison and missing person's units while leading a probe into a possible serial murder case rivalling that of the Green River Killer in Washington state.

*The two homicide detectives assigned to the team were still doing work on a number of unsolved murders, as well as assisting with fresh homicides -- even as they pursued a growing list of suspects in the missing women case.

*Two of the initial investigators on the case were junior members of the department who had less than 20 years experience between them and had never worked in the homicide squad.

*Initially, nobody on the review team -- including the sergeant -- had received major case management training from the Canadian Police College, which is considered the standard requirement for officers conducting complex investigations.

*The investigation was hampered by infighting between investigators and allegations that at least two members of the team were withholding information from other officers and running parallel investigations without alerting the others. The Sun has learned that the situation was so bad that some investigators refused to sit in the same room with each other.

*There were too few data entry people and those in place lacked the necessary training on the case management computer system. At one point, material was lost from the computer -- although the team still had back-up copies on paper.

The computer problems raised concerns among some investigators that any future court case would be compromised or, worse, that the key tip needed to solve the case had yet to be processed.

*Officers became so frustrated with the lack of time and resources to do a thorough job that they began burning out and requested transfers to other sections.

Despite all the problems, the review team did make significant progress on the case before the investigation was scaled back last fall.

Even critics of the department have praised individual officers on the review team for their sensitivity and dedication to the case, and for overcoming a lack of resources to achieve a measure of success.

For instance, detectives, located four of the women by following up leads, monitoring bank accounts, e-mailing pictures to psychiatric hospitals, border crossings and police departments; and checking databanks across the country for medical, social service, vital statistics and coroner's records. Two of the women were located alive, while two had died -- one of a heart condition, the other of a drug overdose.

But the myriad problems with the investigation and the lack of resources meant that important tasks were never completed.

The team began, but never finished a survey of sex trade workers to get their ideas on who might be responsible for the disappearances -- something that proved effective in a similar investigation of missing prostitutes in Poughkeepsie, New York.

Investigators looked at 1,348 tips, but a number received only cursory treatment and still required more analysis and follow-up by the time the team was scaled back last fall.

And although they contacted other jurisdictions to see if they had relevant cases, the team was unable to do the kind of thorough file review now being done by the new joint forces team of RCMP and Vancouver city police, which assumed control of the cases earlier this year.

As a result, police are still turning up cases three years into the investigation and now have more than a dozen possible additions to the list. They are also checking all murders of prostitutes, attempted murders and sexual assaults across the province for potential links to the missing women case.

"We did a pretty good investigation given what we had," said Sergeant Geramy Field, who headed up the missing women review team.

"In hindsight, if we'd had more people, we could have done a better investigation -- a faster investigation."

Field, for instance, said she would have preferred to respond more quickly to new missing women cases, which conceivably offered the freshest leads on a potential serial murder suspect. "But there weren't enough people to do that," she said.

"I would have liked to have had time to meet with the families on a more frequent basis," she said. "But there wasn't enough time."

And Field said it would have been nice, in retrospect, to have had a person heading up the investigation who was trained in major case management and had no other responsibilities. But at the time, there were only two people in the entire department with major case management training.

Officers interviewed for the story say the problems with the investigation were typical of a department so strapped for resources that it barely has enough people to handle day-to-day responsibilities -- let alone properly investigate a case as overwhelming as the disappearance of 31 women.

"Most police departments -- and Vancouver's no exception -- they're all trying to be leaner and meaner and trying to reduce their budgets," said retired Detective Ron Lepine, who worked on the case. "They don't want to commit resources or people or money and time into anything that they're not sure about."

And the missing women case was unlike anything the department had faced before, he said. Investigators had no bodies, no forensic evidence, and no clear idea when the women disappeared, since they were often reported missing months or even years after they were last seen.

The vague time frames made questioning suspects next to impossible since there was no way to verify their stories and alibis. As a result, police were unable to eliminate suspects, the list grew, and the investigation expanded rather than narrowed.

"I don't think any one police department can do this type of investigation, because of the fact that it's so general and there's just so many possibilities," Lepine said. "There's just so many people that you can't eliminate. You can't narrow it. You can't focus. That's what it's all about; you can't focus."

The lack of focus, or even a clear idea of the problem, made it difficult for managers to lobby for more resources in a department already stretched to the limit.

A confidential report on the Vancouver department's workload changes from 1993 to 2000 notes that "one of the greatest stresses in an investigation is attempting to acquire and maintain enough human resources."

The report, which was obtained by The Sun under B.C.'s Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act, shows the department lost 42 officers due to budget cuts over seven years, even as its workload increased by the equivalent of 89 jobs -- positions that were filled by pulling beat cops off the street and putting public safety in jeopardy.

"Whenever there is an extraordinary investigation such as that into the missing women in the DTES (Downtown Eastside) or the home invasions of the elderly, investigators are borrowed from other squads whose workload is such that they can't be spared," the report says.

"This creates stress for the investigators, stress in the organization, and increased overtime whenever staff shortages are created. There are not enough investigators available to provide the flexibility to create short-and medium-term task forces when an extraordinary need arises."

Yet despite the obvious pressures on the department, it appears nobody in senior management ever alerted the public to the fact that it had too few resources to handle the missing women case.

Chief Constable Terry Blythe, who took over as acting chief in June, 1999, admits he inherited a department vastly understaffed. But before he could demand additional resources, Blythe says, he first had to put a strong case together.

"We can't just do things willy nilly overnight and tell somebody well, we need this or that," he said. "We've got to be able to justify very clearly why we're doing what we're doing."

Blythe said one of his first moves as chief was to assign the planning and research section to prepare a comprehensive report on workload changes -- the first in seven years. The report, which was presented to him last December, painted such a shocking portrait of the state of the department, that council immediately responded by approving funding for 50 permanent positions.

But in the spring and summer of 1999, senior officers endured in silence.

They had already committed 10 of their top investigators to the home invasion task force, which formed in February of that year to probe attacks on the elderly. So they scrounged officers from throughout the department to work on the missing women case.

The result was a team of inexperienced or over-worked investigators who were specifically instructed to avoid calling themselves a "task force."

"This was not a task force," Lepine said. "And they made sure that we never did call it a task force. It was a review team to review the information."

And it was far from the nine-member team advertised. A number of the officers carried other duties, some were doing the work of two or three people, and others were assigned on only a part-time basis.

"It may have been under-resourced," Blythe acknowledged in an interview this week. "But I don't want anybody to believe that we didn't think it was serious. We've been hit with this criticism so hard that it's tough to defend yourself.

"But right from the beginning, I think we've acted very responsibly and we've done as much as we could with the resources we had and with the information we had."

As for the fact that two of the initial investigators on the case had less than 20 years on the job between them and had never worked in homicide, Blythe said they were still skilled investigators.

"So even if they didn't have a lot of experience investigating a homicide, they were good police officers."

The senior officers, meanwhile, were overworked. Lepine confirmed that he and his partner, who were pulled from the homicide squad, were juggling several jobs while working on the missing women case. They assisted with new murders, pursued leads on their own unsolved homicide files and, the rest of the time, tried to build a list of suspects for the review team.

"You're trying to do several things at the same time, trying to do a balancing act, trying to focus on the missing women," Lepine said.

"But at the same time, as situations were coming up on homicides that we were involved in, we could not ignore those ... so we're trying to balance our time between that and, as a result, working long hours."

Field, who was in charge of the missing women team, also was doing double duty, according to the confidential report to Blythe on workload changes.

The report notes that the missing person's and coroner's liaison units originally were supervised by a staff sergeant. But department downsizing eliminated that position and the duties were downloaded on Field, who was already overseeing eight homicide detectives.

She was also on call for the homicide squad every second weekend, further harming her quality of life, the report says.

Field confirmed in an interview that workload issues and frustration with the lack of resources on the missing women case played a role in her recent transfer to the department's mounted squad. "There was just too much being asked of us," she said. "You want to do this and you want to do it right. You just can't."

The Sun has also determined that, initially at least, neither Field nor anyone else on the review team had received major case management training, which is taught at the Canadian Police College and is considered a standard requirement for people handling major investigations.

Ontario, for instance, implemented major case management province-wide in the wake of the inquiry into the bungled Paul Bernardo murder investigation in that province.

Field subsequently received the training a year later. But the workload report to Blythe notes that major case management has never been fully implemented in the Vancouver department -- again because of staffing problems.

"Several members of the major crime section have been trained in the MCM model, but it has not been fully implemented because of the additional investigators required," the report says.

On the matter of infighting amongst team members, a number of officers, including Lepine, confirmed it was a problem.

"There was a conflict there; I can say that now because I'm retired," he said."There was a conflict."

Lepine did not identify anybody by name, he but indicated there were officers on the team who had their own agenda and were working at cross-purposes to other investigators.

"It's like anywhere -- you can't have this Starsky and Hutch thing," he said. "That doesn't happen in police departments. Police have to work together. Everybody has to know what each other's doing. Everybody takes a responsibility as part of the team. These guys were not team players."

As for the computer problems, police officers told The Sun the data entry people were also overworked and unable to keep up with the massive amount of information being gathered by investigators. As a result, some of the information still had not been entered by the time the team was disbanded, and the file passed to the joint forces team of RCMP and Vancouver police.

The data entry people also lacked the proper training and, as a result, the team lost a chunk of material -- although it still had back-up copies on paper. However, the team had no way to know exactly what had been lost, requiring investigators to go back and somehow determine what was in the computer and what was not.

Field acknowledges there were problems with the investigation.

"But that isn't to say that the people that were there didn't have their hearts in the right place," she said. "They certainly did. That may explain some of the burnout. Because we did care so much, it took a toll on us personally."

Lepine, who worked in the vice squad for years, agreed.

"I personally have dealt with prostitutes for many, many years," he said. "I sympathize with their situation and if I had gone through life with the things that have happened to them, I might be on the street, too. And to say that we don't care about prostitutes is an absolute, bald-faced lie."

In many ways, Field said, the case overtook her life.

"I never, ever stopped thinking about it," she said. "Not only the internal issues, but you're also thinking who or how could this happen and what can you do about it. And it's your responsibility."

As team leader, Field also worried about the strain on the other investigators, who desperately wanted to solve the case.

"How do you help them carry on when you know, yourself, that everybody's over-worked. Because you do care about the people you work with."

In the end, the team contacted other departments and asked if there was anything more they could be doing. Field says they were told: "'Other than forming a 50-man task force -- no. Given what you've got, you've done everything you can do.'"

Still, Field said, the case bothers her to this day. "I see the articles in the paper or I get a call and I get this little pang," she said. "It's important to me. The case is important. Everyone there was dedicated. It wasn't a perfect investigation and I think we've all learned things. But nobody's ever investigated a case like this.

"The investigators that are working on it now know what they have to do and, unfortunately, it's going to take a lot of money and manpower to do that," she said.

"I just hope they get the support to do it."

Photos of some of the missing are at this link:

Investigation turns up more missing women-Sept 21, 2001



Subject: Re: Question regarding serial killer
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:07:36 -0700
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Hello Antonio,
Just wanted to get in touch with you in regards to a serial killer whom I asked you about last week. Well, it turns out that he probably wasn't a serial killer but he was a very unique case. His name is Joe Clark and I found a brief bio about him at this url: http://darkday.tripod.com/a-h/clarkjoe.html

In addition, I found this video from A&E which details the case: http://store.aetv.com/html/catalog/vp02.jhtml?id=18277

The situation with the Richard Speck video is messed up. It seems to me that the video should have been confiscated and made part of the public record since those men ARE committing crimes in the video. It doesn't seem like a situation in which someone can OWN evidence.

Anyway, thank you for the great site Antonio, keep up all the great work you do.

Thomas Muir

God Bless America

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:02:52 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


Subject: Question regarding serial killer
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:29:01 -0700
From: "Thomas"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Mr. Mendoza,

I have been following your website for a few years now and I would like to thank you for the invaluable resource that you have created. I would have to say that at least 75% of the websites on the topic of serial killing all use the text from your site for their killer bios.

I have a couple of questions that I am hoping you might be able to answer.

A friend of mine told me of a show on either A&E or Discovery that covered an unusual killer in the US (Wisconsin?). He explained that one night an intruder broke in a home and kidnapped a teenage boy who was sleeping on the living room couch. The kidnapper, who was probably about 20, lived with his elderly parents and they never suspected that their son had a teenage boy tied to a bed up in the attic. The victim was constantly beaten and the kidnapper said he liked to hear his bones breaking. On one occasion when the kidnapper was out of the house the boy was able to get out of his restraints and make his way downstairs. Apparently he kept passing out due to the pain from his broken body and his kidnapper made it home and carried him back upstairs. He was thrown in a closet where he stayed until he had the chance to escape again. This time he made it to a phone and was able to call the police by using his nose to dial. The cops arrived just as the kidnapper pulled up to the house. It turns out that the kidnapper was responsible for the deaths of a few other boys in the neighborhood. Does this ring a bell?

I also wanted to know if you have the full copy of the Richard Speck prison video available for download.

Thank you for all your hard work. Mayhem.net is awesome and I will continue to recommend it to all my friends.

Thomas Muir

Subject: Art Gallery
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 22:17:45 -0700
From: "Rose Ov Sharon"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


I have been enjoying your artwork and your Crime Archives for some time now. I finally took up your "offer" of the art being Anti-Copyright and have placed some of your stuff on my website.

My site is a resource for occult books and houses an art gallery, as well as a links portal to many of the strange, esoteric and interesting places on the web which I enjoy, including mayhem.net. I've created a gallery page of your work, choosing some of the one's I liked best from around your site. The page also has a link back to yours. If you have a banner for linkage purposes you can send it on over and I will include it as well.

You can view your gallery at: http://www.anathemabooks.com/mendoza_gallery.shtml Check it out when you get the chance and I certainly hope you enjoy it. Let me know if there is anything you would like to see changed, and of course if there is more you would like to add, or ever any new art in the future.. feel free to let me know.

Thanks for the entertaining site and for the inspiring visuals!

Take Care-

Anathema Maranatha (Rose Ov Sharon)


Subject: Sweeney Todd
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:44:43 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Dear Mayhem,

My friend and I are having a ball looking through your list of killers, however we are curious as to the omission of Sweeney Todd who was hanged in 1802 in England. He would murder clients who came and sat in his barber's chair and his girlfriend, Mrs. Lovett, would use the body meat to sell meatpies in her pie shop. Death toll was in the hundreds, however more bodies were discovered long after Todd had died so they are unsure of the total number. Several hundred.

If you are interested, details can be found in the book; "Sweeney Todd: the real story of the demon barber of Fleet Street" - author Peter Haining. Published by Barnes & Noble. Much myth had risen from this story, however this book provides evidence that this man truly did exist.

Nice website, we've been reading for hours. Very fascinating.

If you'd like more info on Sweeney Todd, please let me know.

Thanks much,

Subject: specs pecs
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:48:17 -0500
From: Michael Harvey
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

My name is Michael Harvey. I work am a senior producer for Investigative Reports as well as a lawyer. I work with Bill Kurtis out of Chicago and produced the Investigative Reports documentary on the Richard Speck tapes.

Please be advised that Kurtis Productions owns all rights to the Speck Prison tapes. We have not authorized them for use on your web site. Please remove any such images immediately or we will take appropriate legal action, including action for legal damages.

Thank you

Michael Harvey

Subject: I may be going nuts, but......
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 22:53:59 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


I have been doing research on Hannibal Lecter. I know this sounds out there, but I do have newspaper articles on the outrage of Silence of the Lambs. How everyone started calling the local police department because they thought they saw "Hannibal Lecter" the actual person that the character was based on. However, his real name is never indicated. I finally came across an article indicating that his true name had been copywritten and was unable to be published. I am not sure about the full credentials of the article but I would really like know if you know who the character "Hannibal Lecter" was based on. I know that the only publication was written by the real killers psychiatrist. My father remembers when the true killer was caught, and my dad is not old enough to be senial and currently shows no signs of the illness.

Please let me know. Thank You.

Subject: hello i need your help
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:02:31 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

hey do you have more pictures from the matamoros killings if you do pllllllllleeeeeeeeaaaaaaasssssseeeeeeeee send them to me i would really appreciate it. I beg you please send the pictures


Subject: Developing Criminal Profile
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:10:20 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I am developing a maladaptive behavior profile (i.e., criminal profile) and am looking for some experts on serial murderers to complete one or more profiles on such individuals. The profiles takes less time the more the person knows about the subject. I need people with extensive knowledge to make the standardization data more useful. One profile should take no more than 30 to 60 minutes. It is simply a matter of rating the subject on a 4 point scale on various items. I hope to be ready for the profiles to be completed within a few weeks. Do you have any suggestions about identifying experts who would be interested in participating in such a project?


Subject: The Family +
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:56:22 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Loved your site!

Not necessarily The People.... ha ha Got anything else on the history of Manson, and his crew? This is very intrging.... I am a father of 4 and grew up in the 70's, but remember a little about all this! Have any interviews with Manson, or His Girls? Does he still run the Family within the wall of justice?

Thank you very much!

Subject: your site
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:16:34 -0400
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Hi love your site. Well documented. I grew up not 10 miles from where Henry Lee Lucas lived in Tecumseh Michigan ,where he killed his mother. Not knowing then, and knowing now is weird. Keep up the good work. Till next time, rock on!!

Subject: russian nasties
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:51:33 -0700
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Is there a cyrillic version of your site? I work with a large furry russian speaking person who thinks that every american is a serial killer, and if they aren't now, they soon will be. Fortunately, there are none such in the old soviet...

--- James Fosha

Subject: be mad
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 03:30:04 +0200
From: "Dutchess of Death"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

hey Im still surching some stuff abouth dutchess of death (louise pette). would you give me some information abouth her or not???????????????? why do you ignore me???am i mad for you or what? fuck you ok!!! mail me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you scared abouth me or what?????????fuck you!!!!!!! give me some stuff about her!!!!! hey im not kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my mail: dutchess_of_death@hotmail.com im trying to be normal and sain-mentaly sane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dutchess of death only for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: Just a suggestion...
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 03:17:43 +0000
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I stumbled upon your site for the first time today and found the contents, although scary and dark, wonderfully entertaining. I actually stayed in a few hours -one probleme- GOT A KILLER headache!

I don't know how long the sites been up, but theses multiple pictures and white on black is difficult to read. If the stuff you wrote wasen't so good, I would of shut off and thrust me I'm on-line alot!!

Are you the writer? My suggestion: write a book...I'll read it. My neck and posture are suffering from the hours of staring at the eye burner. But like I said...I liked so much I could stop so keep up the greatwork!

Great Site,

Subject: west memphis three
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:13:11 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I agree with most of the supporters of the wm3 that have written to this site about the totally exaggerated things written about them, but some of the supporters have a few things incorrect...I went to Marion high, the same high school they went to, I was a sophomore when all of this happened. I didn't have any classes with them, I did see them around, and heard some of the rumors about them. yeah Damien did dress in black, and Jason was his friend...he actually had a lot of friends, one person I know for sure who wasn't any if their friends was Jessie, Jason had been friends with Jessie a few years before, but when he started hanging out with Damien more they kinda separated, about 4 months before the murders Damien had an argument with Jessie at a placed called skate world, I happen to be there that afternoon. I didn't see Jessie that often, he had dropped out...I forget what year.

Damien's so called friends did go around saying a lot of things about stuff he had done, nothing about murdering 3 young boys, just stuff like he had killed dogs and cats, but no one really believed it...they did though when they read the ark. times about the 3 boys killed (kinda funny how things change).

I remember Domini, she was bitch. Damien had many girlfriends though...I remember Domini most because she got pregnant. I also remember a girl named holly who Jason liked, I remember Jason girlfriend heather too. they were kinda popular for being rebellious. I really don't think they killed anyone though, I never met mark byres, but I heard a lot about him. he went to the same church Damien had gone to (when he did go to church). Damien went to church in I think middle school...I don't remember much, just about how a few of my friends sat next to him in the pews and Damien would make fun of the preacher.

Damien did read a lot, he got in a lot of fights too about some girl, I don't remember her name though. he scared a lot of people, he would go around school and when people stared at him he would look at them and yell BOO! He actually did that to me a few times! Jason was kinda cute, I had a crush on him in middle school, he was nice, quite, kind of a follower to Damien though (NOT A SATANIC FOLLOWER!). he just thought Damien was cool, I think. I remember Damien being funny and witty. I don't remember him caring around a cat scull like some people said he did. He did though have tattoos, someone on this site said he didn't, but he did, I seen two of them. one was a pentagram on his chest, and he had Domini on his hand between his thumb. Anyway...I don't think he killed anyone, I think the media gave all 3 boys a bad rep. And crucified the murders of Chris, Mike, and Steve.

Subject: The Internet Crime Archives Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:17:58 -0500 To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I've been an avid reader of your website for as long as I've been on the (4+ years). I took a criminology class in high school to see what goes on in the mind of a serial killer/mass murder. A "morbid fascination" my family calls it. Cases like Lizzie Borden, Jack The Ripper and Charles Manson and his Family piqued my interest into wanting to know what made them that way.

Finding your site has been a pleasure in that respect (of wanting to know what made them that way). Thanks for a great site.


Subject: james bulger
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:49:20 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I would just like to say i really enjoyed reading up on your webpage and would like to comment on the james bulger murder i agree that his killers should never have been set free they are classed as murders and yet allowed to walk the streets *again* im very interested in serial killers and what makes there mind ticks i blame a lot on there up bringing neglect abuse ect ect i would like to study into the minds more and would love a job working for the FBI anyhow good site even if some articles were very disturbing keep up the good work and insight.

Best wishes UK

Subject: left nut Larrys fecal butter
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:17:57 -0700 (PDT)
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Ive been a fan of the site for quite some time, and without doubt it's very entertaining. People want to know so let them. Stick it to the man.

PooP on Jesus.

Subject: Dennis Nilsen
Date Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:27:31 +0100
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I would like to clear up a few inaccuracies in your description of Dennis Nilsens' crimes. Nilsen often consumed large amounts of alcohol before killing but when on remand in Brixton prison it was found that he did not have any sort of alcohol dependency - he was not an alcoholic. You also describe Nilsen as homosexual when in fact he describes himself as Bisexual having had sexual intercourse with a woman twice - once in Germany with a prostitute and also with a Swiss au pair when living in London.

Subject: Damien Echols
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:17:59
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I liked the page until I saw the killer cult section. What is written about Damien Echols is totally innacurate. It is irresponsible to put up information like that. What was the name of this so called "cult" Damien was in? Take Damien's picture off your site. It does not belong there.

Subject: myra
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:19:31 +0200
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

don't you think the reason why women like myra hindley or rose west become sexual perverts is because they're ugly as shit? many say this is a primitive and superficial stance but i suggest there's more to it. looking at serial killer pages on the web i see very few good-looking women (karla homolka being a rare exception). guys can have a relatively successful sex life even if they're not good looking but its much harder for women - maybe some can't take it and go bonkers.

bye for now

Subject: Branch Davidians were murdered
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 14:27:07 +0000
From: "Drew Liberty"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

The Branch Davidians do not fit the term "cult". People were free to leave, as long as the FBI let them. The FBI murdered the Branch Davidians in an act of revenge for the four ATF agents killed during the initial siege. FBI agents threw flash-bang grenades late in the siege to prevent Davidans from leaving Mount Carmel.

For Liberty,
Andrew Sullivan
Libertarian Party of Nebraska, Inc.

Subject: Your On the Run list
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:06:13 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

You forgot one subject on your On the Run list on the internet crime archives site. The New Bedford, Massachusetts highway killer. I live in New Bedford and have followed the story since it happened many years ago. There were a few suspects, one being a well known lawyer. Througout the course of a year or so, skeletal remains were turning up alongside the major highway here. Most were prostitutes and drug addicts. Its never been solved, and as far as I know, still open to this day.

Subject: Christina Herzog
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 05:42:49 -0700
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I have read all the comments from the victims families and from the family of the accused. It is sad that all this had to happen in the first place. Christina is by no means at fault for her husbands crimes. Serial killers have fooled their families, their friends, and their victims for years. It is how they are able to get away with murder for so long. Ted Bundy for example was quiet, unassuming, and even friendly, yet underneath he was a cold blooded killer.

I feel empathy for all that are involved in this situation, for it is difficult to grieve properly if their is no actual body to grieve. Verbal violence will solve nothing, and only causes more stress for all concerned. I know there are no easy answers for anyone involved in this situation. I hope that somehow God will bring all of you some peace.

Sincerely Linda Schrawyer

Subject: Murderers
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:00:05 +0100
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I would like to draw to your attention the case of ROBERT SARTIN (The Satan Boy). On Sunday April 30th 1989 23 year old Sartin walked calmly around the streets of his hometown Monkseaton (UK) shooting people at random with his fathers 12 gauge shotgun . Of the seventeen people he fired upon one died and another six were seriously injured. What makes the case interesting is the fact that it almost mirrors that of MICHAEL RYAN. Sartin later admitted to police that eight months earlier he had toured the route through Hungerford used by Ryan. If Sartin had had acsess to an automatic rifle the bodycount would have been similar to Ryans.

With pleasure.

Subject: Jim Ruzicka - Serial Killer/Rapist
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:54:55 +0000
From: "ken griffey"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I can't find any information on Jim Ruzicka except a place that is selling a letter and postcard supposedly from him. He was convicted in the 1970's and I believe he was referred to as the guinea pig rapist because he didn't really rape the victims but left their bodies nude. I am interested in him because I knew him as a young kid. I was 7 when I met him and he was about 10 or so.

If anyone has any information it would be appreciated.


Subject: you should really read this
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:03:16 -0500
From: "Tana"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I wanted to tell you that you are a very sick person, I don't know you but from want I have read anybody that could think in the way that you do is not human and should be sent to a mental ward. I also think that if you're so proud of what you want to be then you should be able to put your name on the net. But apparently you're not proud of it because you won't even give your real name.

Subject: Arthur Shawcross
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 02:29:47 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


Your website is fascinating. I read somewhere that Arthur Shawcross runs your site from his prison cell. Is that true? Have you any connection to him besides finding him an interesting topic? I know he's quite a gifted artist and I'm wondering how he spends his days in prison. Thanks for any help you can provide.


Subject: Serial Killer living next door?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:33:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: PJslayer
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

For now you may call me pj!!!!

I belive the realm for criminal profiling involves the sixth sense. I have had those abilities for many years, when the visions become to fearful, i shut it down or block it out. I live in nj, and i belive there is a serial killer living in the building next to me. I have had numerous premonitions. I belive this male is a truck driver, and his home-based cb radio is in the building next to me. I have reported this to FBI, i got the idea they thought it was kind of funny.

My premonitions are very vivid, and i can feel the EVIL. A psychologist or two once told me i was empathic. i am very emotional and very tuned to other people and what they are about, through not only my feelings but long studies in psychology.

well if you could be of any help, i'm here.

Subject: Murderers
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:29:32 +0200
From: "tourist from hell"
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

First I must sorry for my bad English... I will not tell you my real name but you can call me Tourist from hell ... I accidentally found your site and after hours of downloading it I think its very cool and full of good stuff. But I didn't find photos of dead victims or stuff like that... you should put insome.

I like murderers, thats why I'm "collecting them". I think that they are like artists - the victims are their works of art. Lots of people (my friends) think that Im mad, but Im NOT... they think that Im mad enough to be sent to a psychiatric clinic?!?! What a bunch of shit friends!!!!

I would like to have for just one time in my life the "power" of a Serial killer to kill someone (maybe just joking) but Im too scared to do something like this and my stomach is not good enough.

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:24:22 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Every since I saw the movie Hannibal the Cannibal I have been really intrested in learning more about what it is exactly. I'm thinking about being a cannibal. I think it is really neat. Some people say its just the devil, but I would really like to learn more. Please send me some links that I can see about this un-familiar topic.


Subject: sheperd's chapel
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:24:28 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

take a look into the words of Arnold Murray. I feel fairly certain his group will be on your list soon. He is the head of a "new religious group" called shepherd's chapel. and he is completely rewriting the bible. I know that he has many followers, because my husband is one of them.


Subject: Squeaky and Ford
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 05:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

My Aunt Cheryl Ford just happened to be President Fords personal secretary at the time of this god-awful episode in our history. She was approximately 5-12 feet away from him as Squeaky was in her realm of Mansonism. I am very fortunate to have been able to witness this as I also was in the crowd, Fortunate you may say is an awkward word for me to use to identify my feelings toward this event yet to learn firsthand the absolute power and reign that Manson had when our own heads of state and policing agencies cannot contain are interesting to perceive as well as study. I hope, of course, that we have no problems in this type of a situation again. It would not be tolerable in the least.

Thank You

Stephanie Wenn
Spectator/Non-Fictional Narrator

Subject: Michael Ross
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:18:00 -0400
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Dear Webmaster,

I have been searching for more information on serial killer Michael Ross. Though your site was a little more than I could handle, I would like to thank you for the information I found. Ross killed my best friend, Paula Perrera, in March of 1982. He confessed to the crime in 1998, but is finally making it to NY on August 6, 2001 to be tried for her murder. I was 17 years old when this happened, Paula was only 16. You didn't have her name in the list of his victims. Could you please add her name. Thank you.

Barbara Jean

Subject: Info on James Bulger's suffering
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:53:08 +0300
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I think everybody should know this. Please publish it!

I list below details of the torture that Thompson and Venables dished out to James.

James was dragged to a railway line after being hit several times on the head. He was stripped from the waist down and had bricks thrown at him, they kept throwing these bricks because they said "he wouldnt stay down".

James was then tortured in the most horrific way. He had blue enamel paint (which they had stolen from a shop) poured into his eyes and mouth, they kept beating him, they then removed his foreskin with their fingernails. They inserted batteries into his anus and when they could not remove them, they used an iron paling to do so and in the process almost removed his colon. They carried on hitting James with bricks and an iron bar. They jumped up and down on his genitals. One of the boys footprints was found on the bridge of James's nose where they had kicked him in the face. All the while James was crying and screaming for his mummy and daddy but nobody heard his cries. When they had had their fun, they dragged James, whose brain was by now so traumatised by the blows on to the railway tracks so a train would run over him. This eventually happened hours later. When james was identified, he was in pieces. This information was given by the family member who identified James's body.


Subject: Lead?
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I think I may have a lead on the "twin cities killer" which occurred in Minnesota.

I need more info....can you direct me to a URL description of the crimes.

Can you also provide info on whom to contact if I feel this lead needs pursuing?

Thank you.

Subject: Missing in Texas: Serial Killers of Galveston
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:42:02 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I have been interested in this case, since I live in this area. You are one of the few sites to focus on this mystifying and terrifying event that keeps happening. However, there are few things published. Especially in the disappearance of Jessica Cain. She is mentioned on your page and I have some links available. Please tell me what you think.


@marillo Globe-News: Texas News: Man charged in torture case has ties to Texas 04/18/99

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Subject: The Nursery Killings in Norway
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 01:04:39 +0200
To: elvision@mayhem.net


Although I may disagree with what your saying on this page, I would go to the death defending your right to say it.

In the 1890's two women murdered more than 24 children in Oslo, they were caught, tried and convicted of the crime. This may not sound like much compared to the likes of Thomas Quick (who have confessed to many more murders) and Andrei Chickatilo, but considering the Norwegian population today is roughly 4,3 million and back then about 2,5 million 24 is alot. I'll get back to you with more details as soon as I have them.

Why they weren't sentenced to die, is strange considering we had the death penalty back then and killers were usually put to death by decapitation by the use of an axe. I would however believe that what saved them, was their relative good looks and their gender. The nursery murders was the worst serial/mass murders in modern Norwegian history in peace time.

Speaking of peace, or lack there of, during WWII the leader of a gang of torturers and traitor became known as the worst torturer and most sadistic man in Norwegian history, the gang became know under their nume-de-guerre Rinnan-banden (in English: The Rinnan Gang) His name was Henry Oliver Rinnan. And he really loved his work. I just thought I'd tell you about him, even though he was a war criminal and not a genuine serial/mass murderer. But he was a genuine sadist. After he was found guilty of numerous crimes he was sentenced to die by a firing squad, whom I suppose was quite happy to do it.

Arnfinn Nesset is as you back on the streets, but under a new identity. And claims to be a born again Christian. Yeah right.

Hi, i'm a big fan of your page etc and keep up the excellent work. Cutting to the point, there is a scroll of jeffrey dahmer wearing a brown suit with his left arm extended forwards. I NEED THAT PICTURE AT ALL COSTS, or at least a cut out of it from the scroll if no individual pose is available. It's very important and I would very very much appreciate taking notice of this message! Also, if possible, the same for the dahmer pose in the truckload of maniacs splash icon which is saved under the name "guiltykillers" in the crime index page. That picture of him in the striped shirt standing would be very important if you could send it, but above all, the first picture!! Thanks alot. Keep up the excellent site

Subject: Thousands of Modest Unknown Serial Killers in the US and the World
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:04:33 -0000
From: "Dead Meat"

In the US and through out the World there are thousands of Modest Unknown Serial Killers. This is verified by the large numbers of unsolved murders, missing people especially among prostitutes, illegal aliens, gay men, the homeless, run away children and assisted suicide victims.

Some of these uncaught serial killers are members of Satanic and Pagan Cults who harvest homeless street people, prostitutes, gay men, illegal aliens, runaway children and the suicidial for ritualistic human sacrifices. These groups including the Satanic, VooDoo, Santeria, other Seven African Powers religions and Pagan Cults. Some of these groups even have there own sites on the internet.

There is a large pool of depressed suicidal men and women who are willing to be killed as a snuff, human sacrifice or an assisted suicide. The serial killers seek these people out through related internet sites, sex phone lines and personal ads. These victims might change their minds after they place themselves in hands of the snuffer but they will then usually die regardless.

There is another large pool of men and women who would willingly put themselves in harms way. Men and women into BDSM, Bondage, Flogging, Edgeplay, Breath Control, Mock Hangings, Snuff Fantasy, Satanism, slavery, sexual three-somes, private sexual meetings. Again when the victim is in the hands of the snuffer(s)/serial killer(s) the victim is usually dead meat.

The govermental law enforcement agencies ignore these serial killers because of the lack of evidence and witnesses. They are afraid of looking foolish in court and the public finding out the actual number of unsolved murders and uncaught serial murders. Many of the so- called suicides, accidents and missing people especially children would have to be acknowledged as murder victims. This would be truly bad press for the world's Cowardly Law Enforcement Community.

Subject: Love you guys
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 8:27:51 EST
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Hi, to stay anonymos, I'll call myself Burn, just like everybody else calls me. Anyway, I was reading your website -- LOVE IT -- and I came across the Body Count section. I was reading the little paragraphs and I came up on this one about a new revolution. I think the guys name was hlegen. Anyway, I agree whole heartily. I think we really need to have an uprising like this, to teach those badstards at the pentagon we mean business. Also, I've been having these strange cravings for human meat, but I don't know why. I found this website that SELLS human meat...Yes they SELL HUMAN MEAT. I ordered some ground beef to see if I like it -- Shits expensive on that site. It should be here soon. Anyway..I was wondering if these cravings would be considered cannibalism. Please get back to me a.s.a.p


Subject: Who is the blonde mass murderer?
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:26:24 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


I've fascinated by your site and read it almost every day. I was wondering who the long blonde-haired guy is in the scrolling marque on the mass murderer hit list? Just was interested. Keep up the great work.

Subject: bullshit
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:26:35 +0800
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

who the fuck allows these sanimals the privilege of marriage,food and air 2 breathe execute em all in the manner they killed their undeseving victims.

Subject: Kool Jeffrey Dahmer story!
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:20:43 -0500
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

I must say that I really enjoyed reading the story that you wrote about Jeffrey Dahmer. I have read many things about him, and your adds to the ones that I like. I would like to also compliment you on the background of the page. Keep up the good work. I will be looking forward to reading nore of the work of your page!

Subject: update on franz fuchs
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:28:00 +0200 (METDST)
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

first thing to say read the whole website and could not stop talking about it. very fine stuff.

franz fuchs committed suicide in a high security prison in linz. the "funny" part is that he hanged himself without hands. he accomplished to attach a rope to his kneck with his teeth. but i liked the fact, that his hunt scattered a lot of neonazi groups.

and i am missing jack unterweger, a "jack, the ripper" copy cat, who killed about 4 or more prostitutes in austria and 2 on a trip to miami. he was also known for his books he wrote in prison. he committed suicide aswell.

so i wish you good luck and no govermental problems

useLess MAYhEM

p.s. do you plan to ceate a robbery gone bad section - like the ak-47/crack bankrobbery in usa (maybe LA)in 1997. (4 guys,heavily armed pumped about 600 rounds into the ceiling)

Subject: Another revolution is needed/
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:48:13 -0400 (EDT)
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

My friend the time has come to relive the late sixties....only this time the war should be against the rich republicans who control everything. The new tax break everyone is so eager to jump on the bandwagon...sure you poor folk may get 300 dollars back...but just imagine what the rich fortune 500 companies are getting Ill tell you what they are getting....billions!!! Its time to rise up against the rich assholes and show them who is in the majority!! Anyone who is interested in starting a grass roots campaign with me is encouraged to e mail me. Not everything Charlie says was right but just look at the environmental situation today...Charlie predicted this over 30 years ago. Come on people where is the intensity and power of the 60's gone....lets make 2001 the start of a new revolution.

If you feel as I do....please e mail me at hlegend@webtv.net

Subject:"Last Call Serial Killer"
Date:Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:40:28 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com


Love your site!!! I wanted you to know that the "Last Call" killer who killed gay men after they left Gay Bars has been caught. They matched fingerprints with a gentleman (nurse...good at anatomy....cut the bodies up and left them in garbages) who was from Staten Island, NY and his Alma Mater was a Florida college (there are also some Gay murders down there that are being investigated...he used to visit often). The breakthrough in the case was that Maine had been hooked up into the Fingerpring database and this guy had a previous tangle with the law when he beat his former roomate to death (he was aquitted). Luckily his fingerprints were still on file.


Subject: Impressive
Date: 17 Jun 2001 01:10:15 EDT
To: gotcipro@yahoo.com

Hello, i've visited your site several times and your updates reflect your interest in crime, I have to say that you keep up with the times with excellent precision. I myself am a serial killer buff, and your site is excellent, I especially like the sound bytes in the background of such pages as truckload of killers, Hell, and several other ones. Did you make and maintain it alone or was there any help in it, must've taken a hell of a long time if you did it alone, lol.

I'm envious of all the pictures yo have from newspaper clippings of the serial killers' faces, I only have the generic ordinary ones available on the net, i'm looking for a good wallpaper, atm it's a split between a stretch of the Dahmer Fresco, and a tile of the gacy mugshot of which I have two versions, the one I use is a smaller format but with a lighter background where he's truly vicious looking, the other is quite large and it's a very dark and dirty version of that one. I saw one where his hair is parted towards the left instead of the right, on your site, i'm guessing you got that straight out of a newspaper right? Keep up the excellent work, by the way, what is meant by speed freak in the mcveigh section, i'm not familiar with the term.

Btw, though you've done a good job of making speciality pages dedicated to some of the killers, among them Ramirez and dahmer, you should make some more of the other killers like gacy, bundy and rolling, should you have the time.


Subject: kill mail
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:42:29 -0000
From: "hmm14wg"

wot is kill mail? is it mail where you describe your ideal way to kill someone, or mail where you describe your disgust at all the killings you have seen on your website?

i stumbled on your site tonight.....i'm emailing you because i've got serial killer instincts....my local detectives know about this, and i talk sporatically,but regularly, to a detective named mike....the fbi wanted to profile me in a different state,but we couldn't coordinate time schedules.....what's the purpose of your site....is it just a storybook of individual's crimes or do you have suggestions on treatment options....my psychologist seems frustrated and used words like "hopeless" and "sad" to describe my life....i'm 100 percent addicted to fantasies of watching teen boys and men die....i spend time daily on the internet trying to find sites that will cater to my sex drive....then i go home and spend time on the phone seeking guys who are into similar fantasies, so we can tie each other up and roleplay our little death scenes....

i can't work because my obsessive thoughts interfere with work, and my attorney is hoping to win a disability case for me....my desire to kill is too strong for me to work, yet when i end up with free time if this case settles, i know i'll want to spend every waking hour entertaining my thoughts,whether by phone,computer,ad in the newpaper,or maybe i'll get more bold and walk right up to attractive guys and make a pass....the luvox,i don't know about that drug, i haven't been on it the 6-8weeks it's suppose to take to help with obsession/compulsion...so, any advice,we've got the police involved,fbi,psychologist,psychiatrist, and now i'd like to know what your suggestions are.....thanks


I recently discovered your website and find it fascinating though a little frustrating. However I do'nt give up easily when I want something and am hoping you can help me. I am studying and my subject is Criminology specialising in Serial killers male/female past/present and at this stage I need to know extensively about Death Row inmates again past/present in America and about when Capital punishment was legal in Great Britain and carried out. Any books that you can list me to purchase would be of immense help to me. I cannot seem to find them on your website. Hope you can help and I look forward to hearing from you at your very earliest convenience.

S Kelly (Mrs)

Dear Sir,

I'm hoping that you can help me. I'm scared for my daughter and not sure where to turn. My sister pointed me in the direction of your website and I find it very interesting. My daughter has become involved in a christian group called Younglife. I didn't have any problem with the group until a couple of weeks ago when she went to a camp with the group in Beanue Vista, Colorado. The girl I sent up on that bus was not the same girl that came back to me. The had many church sessions and a thing that they call quiet time to pray. When she came back from this trip she was not happy to be home is all she wanted to do was go back. She wanted to give up all she has here to be up there. She was told that they would have meetings everynight for the summer and she went to one the other night. However I told her she was only allowed to go once a week to the meeting. My question to you is, have you ever heard of this group and do I have something to worry about? Thank you so much for your time,

Concerened Mother

Just a note on your article on Ervil Lebaron. He was not "Mormon" he was a Fundamentalist Mormon a group that broke off of the true Mormon church more than 100 years ago. The key difference being that the "Mormon" church or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does not allow polygamy and, of course, does not encourage it's members to kill people.

I'll bet you receive a lot of hatemail.. this isn't one of them. I just wanted to say that your site is so comprehensive and enlightening, it's a tribute to free speech. I'm hoping to become a criminal profiler one day, and as macabre as my curiosity may be, the minds of these people are complex and fascinating.. thanks for keeping up the site, and never let anyone get ya down.

-Someone named Drew who doesn't kill people

Dear Sirs,

as an avid reader of Your Crime Archive, i desperatly miss one of our most popular cases in recent history in Germany, the so-called "Hammermörder", the "hammer-killer", Norbert Pöhlke. He is a perfect fit for your "5+"-Category.

Norbert Pöhlke was a policeman, living in a rural area in southwestern Germany, near Stuttgart, he was a caring, loving father of a family of three, he was the epitome of a "Spiessbürger", as we call it in Germany, an average citizen, intent to keeping up with his neighbours, never disturbing, never causing any trouble, clean, neat, a somewhat primitive role-model to all good citizens, and, as a consequence, a brutal killer.

Pöhlke was a policeman, but he "moonlighted" as a bank-robber, and what a cruel bank-robber he was! His modus-operndi was always the same: He stole a car, drove off, parked in front of a bank, entered, smashed the cashier-windows with a hammer, threatened the clerks with his pistol, grabbed the loot, and drove off. Leaving behind the car, coming back home, being the good citizen, he always pretended to be. Nothing new, uuh?

Except for his unique method to collect the cars for his several robberies: With his policeman´s authority he passed some unsuspecting driver on one of the so many deserted roads in his district, made him stop on the side of  the road, and shot him smack in the face. Just to get his car, for his next attempt at a bank. Three times.

Pöhlke was finally given away by the gun he used. It was the only gun he ever could own, the gun the police gave to him. ( oh, the NRA must like that:" Weapons don´t kill people, people kill people." It´s the most shitty of all arguments. It is always the opportunity, that makes people kill other people (or themselves), and the oppotunity is called "a gun". ). But before local police could seize Norbert Pöhlke, he sensed what was upon him. So he took his police-gun, got upstairs, shot his wife right in her face, went into the room, where his two children slept, took the oldest, shot him straight in his face, and took his youngest son, the beloved one, wrapped him in some unstained clothes, and drove away to Italy. As unbelievable as it may seem, Pöhlke took his little son to Italy, the place Pöhlke always saw as the only happy place on earth (as a child he and his parents had spent their vacations on the coast of Italy). The single most unbelievable document of Pöhlkes last days is a photography of him and his infant son alongside an italian "feta" (a celebration) at the beach, where both of them would die. 10 Days after his flight from Germany Norbert Pöhlke would kill his infant son, and himself.

This is one of the most disturbing cases of a man killing for no obvious reason, i ever heard of (except Your VERY disturbing page).

There is some verification to the stuff i wrote, the best example being the archives of Germanys most reknowned news-magazine, "Der Spiegel", (kind of Time-Magazine in German) . The best verification should be the book Fred Breinersdorfer wrote about the case, Fred Breinersdorfer: Der Hammermörder , Munich, 1986, Heyne TB 8557 .

Unfortunately, the book is out of print, so there are just a few copies left today. Fortunately, i snatched one of them, via the internet, to an even modestly price. Unfortunately, further, all these texts are in German.

Give him, Norbert Pöhlke, a chance, to posthumously enter your archives of the deranged, the sick, the violent. He´s worth it, the dirty fuck! (2 little children, and his wife. And 3 innocent people, whose doom was just their car).

I´m currently writing the "Hammermörder"-Chapter for a book about German "made for TV-Movies" (in German it is simply "Fernsehspiele", there isn´t even a translation in English), for Fred Breinersdorfer made a "TV-Movie" about Mr. Pöhlke, and it is my job, to prove, that "Der Hammermörder" is one of the best "TV- Movies" ever made in Germany. Which sure it is.

Please excuse the sorry state of my English, but i rarely correspond in Your language, my second language besides German is French.

Best wishes to Your really, really disturbing Site,
Carl Heller

Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:05:26 -0600
To: elvision@mayhem.net

yOU have to be kidding me, Richard's wife said that? Whats wrong with the bitch? If he ever gets her alone he s gonna kill her good! I wonder what it would be like if ED GEIN and RICHARD worked together ?THe possibilities Mabey you should start a quiz for people to see if they are a serial killer.

During the trials in the early 90's I was training to be a victim advocate. I was privileged to sit with and "support" the parents of the 3 women Bolin murdered. I was present during the first trial AND the 1st retrial of Terry Lynn Matthews. I was present when Rosalie Martinez was evicted from the court room for "trying" to intimidate Bolin's half-brother while he was testifying. (it was quite heartening for the mother of Matthews I might add) I just finished reading her ridiculous letter to this site saying he was only tried for the one murder and was not a serial killer. In fact, I nearly fell off my chair. He has been tried AND convicted 6 (maybe 7 times for Christ's sake)

When I think of Rosalie Martinez Bolin I can't help but remember her truly outrageous statement of "I feel pretty" when 20/20 asked her what in the world could she possibly be thinking marrying this headcase. I wonder how pretty SHE would feel with a tire iron across her head. And lets not forget that the tire iron was only used because Bolin's stabbing and drowning didn't kill Matthews. How pretty she would be. On behalf of all of us women out here, I would like to make a collective sigh of relief that he is not on the streets. Perhaps THAT is why Martinez is hopping around making noise? She's safe. Sit down and shut up sweetheart. Your 15 minutes are over, and I will say an extra prayer tonight that your soon to be dearly departed will get a "date" soon.

your sight is really strange but its pretty tight im gonna buy that book killer on the loose, who knew u could have a non-gothic-christian-cheerleader read some of the things on the site.

-much love J*a*n M*i*l*l*e*r

I just finished the above book by Fredrick Kunkle, which is the story of five kids who killed another kid just because he was goofy. The interesting thing about it is that none of the five seemed to perceive that they'd done anything wrong, even after they were tried (or pled) and sent to prison.

I was curious to see if there was an update to the story, and searched with Yahoo and on your site to no avail. I know you mostly concentrate on multiple murderers, but the level of psychopathy in some of these teen killers is really interesting (I can think of a few more cases like this, including some female perpetrators)

I can give you more information if you like, though the book is a library book and I eventually have to take it back. I'd be delighted if you could find anything out for me. I love the site (though I have to mute the sound, which means I can't listen to other music while I read....which I find annoying)

need a person to take care of some of my nuisances. do you have hookups around the country?


I am desperately looking for a book written by Issei Sagawa called "In the fog" in which he describes how he killed and ate his young victim in Paris. I have looked for it everywhere in Spain but I cannot find it, I have been searching in the net as well but with the same results. I would be very pleased if you could tell me if that book really exists, and if so, has it been translated into Spanish. Thank you very much.


I have visited this site quite often , and found it to be very disarming to a female in society today.To read about so much aggression towards woman is inexcusable.These men should all be gathered up like cattle and dumped in a ditch until they die.Die with people ,strangers that are like themselves so they can rape and beat , torture eachother till they die like their victims had to endure.The pain and grief the families of the victims has to be immense I feel for all of them morn and share their pain almost daily. The most informative thing this site has shown and taught me is not to trust anyone.People continue to have false motives to hurt and be destructive against eachother as a whole. To think that most do not think of people as monsters is just sheer stupidity.

We as humans think we are so safe and shielded from the world the door is locked and we are safe IS NOT SO, a planned invasion of your safety is always possible. More and more woman leaving themselves open to this violence is pathetic thinking they are safe in a bar or prostituting is once again sheer stupidity. You are inviting sick people to violate you and torture or murder you.Yes we are yet so advanced and so superior to animals a dog,cat,horse,ect.. yet we do not have simple basic survival skills. This activity is irresponsible to think anyone person out there is not hunting you like prey you are wrong.If we value our lives we should feel the need to protect it. I hope people realize common sense like leaving a bar with a total stranger isn't going to have a negative outcome or opening our homes to people we don't know would hit home.I guess there will always be victims victims of a killer and more often we are victims of ourselves.

I read the letter someone posted regarding Wayne Nance, the serial killer that lived and plied his trade in Montana...To clarify, Wayne was beaten to death by the victim, who broke the butt of a rifle over his head as Wayne Nance tried to assault his wife.

It seems Wayne Nance would case his victims homes while he delivered furniture for a local store. After his death (score one for the victims!), he was connected to numerous other murders in western Montana through his delivery logs.

i think that you should take the stuff you said about the west memphis three down. its totally unaccurate biased and mostly a bunch of shit. other than that i like your site, but please have you ever really read up on the case for them? if you did maybe you would see a little clearer what youre saying is wrong, youre just what people like us are trying to stop.


I have a neighbor that thinks she might have cheated death in 1980/1981. She had a four hour lay over at the Minneapolis Minnsota airport. A nice looking airport worker asked her to drive around with him in his van. He took her to his house. The van did not have any handles inside. She remembers using the restroom in his home upstairs and there was no door....it looked directly into his bedroom. She said their conversation was getting creepy so she talked about her sick brother. He agreed to take her back to the airport.

Just recently she had some friends tell her that there was a serial killer in that same area around the early eighties that preyed on young single women at the airport. Do you have a name and or picture or other info that would be helpful. My neighbor really wants to find out if this was the same guy. (She is having me help her because her husband is a little freaked out! that this happened to her.) Thanks for your help.

I found you web site after following a dream I had last night, you see my cousin was killed by Dean Carrol, I have no Idea if I am spelling his name right. I had vivid dreams of the crime scean and the boat shed that he (Stanton Dreymala, cousin) was found in. I am trying to decide if this is something that I remember seeing on the news years ago or not. I was 12 when it happened. My cousin and I share the same birthday, but Stanton was older. I just feel some connection I can't explain.

Any more info on the two, would be helpful.

l be "MOOOvd" by your letter I'm sure!


This is Tera and i read your web page, a little confussed but that's ok. I am looking for any information on where i can find any advice or work, with working with serical killers that are insane or otherwise. If you have any information or know where i can find some. Please write me back.


I read your rejected application from Amazon and I must confess my amazement.

Their claim that they reject websites or content that promotes violence is pure bullshit. They sell a CD called the "Free The West Memphis Three", a case about which both you and I have written.

The CD in question provides both indirect and direct financial renumeration to the convicted killers, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley Jr in the form of sales revenue to a website whose proceeds are used to fund phone calls to them in prison as well as propagandize their futile cause. Since all direct appeals have failed, they are factually guilty of the crimes as adjudicated by the highest court in the United States.

I can't say Amazon's hypocrisy comes as a surprise, but I thought you ought to at least know "the rest of the story."

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